Sir Mark Hendrick (in the Chair) I call Dr Kieran Mullan to move
the motion and will then call the Minister to respond. As is the
convention for 30-minute debates, there will not be an opportunity
for the member in charge to wind up. Dr Kieran Mullan (Crewe and
Nantwich) (Con) I beg to move, That this House has considered
public understanding of life sentences. It is a pleasure to serve
under your chairmanship, Sir Mark. I welcome this opportunity
to...Request free trial
Sir (in the Chair)
I call Dr to move the motion and will
then call the Minister to respond. As is the convention for
30-minute debates, there will not be an opportunity for the
member in charge to wind up.
Dr (Crewe and Nantwich)
(Con)
I beg to move,
That this House has considered public understanding of life
sentences.
It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Sir Mark. I
welcome this opportunity to discuss crime and justice, one of the
topics that motivated me to enter politics and that I have
focused on in my time as an MP. As the son of a policeman, and
having spent time volunteering as a special constable, I am
acutely aware of the way that crime can destroy families and
upend the lives of decent, law-abiding people. Wanting the
victims of crime and their families to benefit from a more just
justice system is something that I feel passionately about. I
always aim to contribute to the debate and to edge the system in
a direction that I think better delivers the justice that it
should be set up to deliver. I have spoken before in this place
about my concern that all too often the victims of the most
serious crimes and their families do not see justice done.
Before I speak about the use of the term “life sentences”
specifically, I will set out the background. My time campaigning
in this area has taught me that there is what I have described
previously as “intellectual snobbery” about people who think that
our justice system is at times insufficiently punitive. There are
well-meaning and in many respects important groups that lobby
hard to make the system less punitive, and nothing that I believe
invalidates their arguments or counteracts efforts to deliver
reform and rehabilitation of offenders. If such efforts work and
overall there are fewer victims of crime, that will be a good
thing, but as a Conservative, I believe that we should keep one
eye on reality as well as one eye on the ideal future. Criminal
behaviour is not going anywhere any time soon, and even the best
rehabilitative systems see recalcitrant and very serious
offenders.
Also, we have to recognise that, in and of itself, punishing
offenders is a public good; in fact, it is recognised in the law
as one of the purposes of sentencing. Whether we like to admit it
or not, it helps victims and their family and friends to feel
that justice has been done, and in the aftermath of a serious
crime, whatever comfort we can bring to victims' families is
incredibly important. I would argue that punishment is
fundamental to our system. It tells victims and their families
that they should not take matters into their own hands, because
the justice system will deal with things fairly.
Of course, there are no black-and-white answers stating what that
will mean in every case, but almost nobody who argues for less
punitive measures would suggest, for example, that a
murderer—even one who we could guarantee would not offend
again—should spend just four weeks in prison. Nearly everyone
accepts that punishment is necessary, and it is easy to suggest
outcomes that 99% of people would agree instinctively are too
lenient. In the most serious cases, there is in my view a
huge—indeed yawning—gap between what most fair-minded people
would think constitutes justice and what actually happens.
I am also concerned that the Department itself—the Ministry of
Justice—does not sufficiently engage with this issue. That
engagement is sometimes missing from impact assessments and
policy changes, and perhaps even more worrying is its absence
from the MOJ's own annual report. The focus is on victims'
experiences of the processes of the justice system, which is of
course important and to be welcomed, but I think that what most
victims and their families want most of all is for justice to be
done, and the MOJ has little to say on whether or not the justice
system as it stands is actually delivering that. I have suggested
before that we could start by at least asking people what they
think about this issue, but there has been little appetite for
that.
I will never forget what the father of Sarah Everard said when
the murderer of his child was sentenced to a whole-life order—a
very rare thing in our justice system. He said that it was the
only thing that brought him any comfort. I do not think that he
would have felt any different if the perpetrator had not been a
policeman, even though it was only because the perpetrator was a
policeman that a whole-life order was given. I believe that the
view that father expressed is common among the families of murder
victims.
Because this is a subjective issue, I think that the views of
victims' families and the public at large should act as a
powerful and important standard against which we hold ourselves,
albeit it should not be the only consideration. I remember
discussing this question with Elsie Urry, a lady whose three
children were brutally murdered in 1973 by a man who she thought
was then sent to prison for the rest of his life, only for him to
be released in 2019 when he was considered to be no longer a
danger to others.
That brings me on to the use of the term “life sentence”. The
first thing we need is transparency about what our justice system
is actually delivering. Without it, the public do not necessarily
know what is happening, and if they do not know what is
happening, politicians will not be held to account properly,
which is very unfortunate in a democracy. The focus of my debate
is to highlight the fact that, in the current system, what is
happening is frequently misreported and misunderstood, giving the
impression that our justice system is more punitive than it is,
particularly when it comes to the most serious offences.
What is called a life sentence is in fact, in sentencing
practice—a sentence of a minimum term of imprisonment, after
which there is an opportunity for release with the remainder of
the offender's life spent on licence. But what is actually
reported? What do the public get told? I was pleased to be able
to explore this issue in more depth in the Justice Committee's
report, “Public opinion and understanding of sentencing”, which
states:
“The use by major news outlets of the phrase “jailed for life”
when they are not referring to a whole life order is an example
of how media coverage risks perpetuating misunderstandings of the
law on life sentences among the public. Reporting of sentencing
that potentially inflates expectations of how long a person will
serve in prison risks damaging public confidence.”
A whole-life order is a term of lifelong imprisonment; it is
different from a life sentence.
Since late last year, my office has regularly monitored this
issue, and I am afraid that it is not just the media that spreads
this misunderstanding. Even more concerning is the fact that
police forces and, on one occasion, the Crown Prosecution Service
have incorrectly used the phrase “jailed for life” to describe a
life sentence. Just today, Nottinghamshire police force released
a statement with a headline saying that two murderers had been
“jailed for life”. That is simply not true. The two individuals
had received life sentences with minimum terms of 16 and 19
years. That is very different from being jailed for life, as we
can reasonably expect both of them to be released.
Since October 2023, we have had to contact eight police forces
for using the phrase “jailed for life” in their headlines about
13 cases. On six occasions, the police forces in their opening
paragraphs failed even to explain the minimum tariff set by the
courts, and once a police force failed entirely to mention that
there was a minimum tariff. I am pleased to say that three police
forces admitted their mistake and subsequently changed their
statements after we contacted them, but the majority have not.
That matters. People do not always read all the details of a news
article, let alone of an official press release from a police
force. Every time “jailed for life” is used of someone subject to
a life sentence, people get a false impression of what is
happening.
I do not want to diminish the many positive things that this
Government have done to introduce what I think are fairer
punitive elements into the system, not least the big step change
away from Labour's halfway early release to a two-thirds release
for the worst offenders, and the introduction of a whole-life
order for premeditated child murder. I welcome the planned
introduction of whole-life orders when there is a single victim
whose murder involved sexual or sadistic conduct, instead of the
existing requirement for two victims.
There is much for me to welcome, but I am clear that we must go
further on child murder. I think the requirement for significant
premeditation is too high a burden, as it excludes, for example,
a parent battering their own child to death in a rage. In
addition, where multiple offences are involved, our system is too
quick to have sentences served concurrently. We have seen this in
cases of historical child sex abuse, where there are sometimes
dozens of victims and hundreds of offences. Measures need to be
in place to impose whole-life orders in some cases of that
type.
Such changes are difficult to make. They are expensive changes
for the Government, and there is always pressure on prison
places. We can hope for success only if people understand how
rarely whole-life orders are used, and that life sentences are
not in any way comparable, especially given the usual minimum
terms. If most people serving a life sentence did in fact spend
most or all of the rest of their life in prison, this would be
less pressing, but they do not. On average, they serve 20
years.
Some people will argue that the term “life sentence” is accurate
because it describes the rest of an offender's life being served
on licence. When we make that argument, however, we risk
offending the victims and their families. Families of victims of
murder are really serving a life sentence of grief, trauma, and
terrible memories of what happened to their loved one. Someone
serving their sentence on licence out in the community is
basically just being asked to do what all of us are asked to do,
which is to not offend. That is a burden that we all face, and I
do not see it as in any way equivalent to spending time in
prison. None of this is an issue for those familiar with legal
jargon, but when a member of the public who is less well informed
of what the terminology means reads “jailed for life”, they are
being misled.
I am aware of an almost diametrically opposed view of the public
understanding of sentencing, though. A commonly made argument is
that, broadly, away from the issue of what a life sentence means,
the public underestimate sentencing lengths and think we are less
punitive than we are. That is undoubtedly driven by media
reporting, where journalists, who have a good innate sense of
what the public will think is reasonable, are quick to report
cases where they sense that that has not happened. Often,
however, an unjustified logical step is made by advocates of less
punitive approaches: that because of that, we do not need to make
the system more punitive. That approach forgets that two things
can be true at the same time: people can think our system is less
punitive than it is, but they can also think, even when presented
with the reality, that it is not punitive enough.
There is another argument based on research in which the public
are asked to go through more detailed theoretical cases and
sentencing exercises. Studies suggest that people agree with the
sentences normally given when they have the full picture.
However, almost universally, these exercises look at less serious
offending and cases that are full of mitigating circumstances. My
focus has always been on the worst and most serious offending. I
do not think I have ever seen one of these exercises take someone
through the case, for example, of a serial rapist in and out of
prison who refuses to engage in behavioural change programs, or
of a parent who batters, tortures, neglects and then murders
their own child. That leaves me still firmly of the view that, in
the most serious cases, the problem of misreporting remains
important.
There are things we can do about this. First, as part of the
Justice Committee's inquiry into the public understanding of
sentencing, the Committee travelled to Finland and the
Netherlands to speak to officials and stakeholders about how they
approached reporting sentencing to the public, including the role
of media or press judges engaging with the media on reports. The
press judges undertake their media duties in addition to their
role as a judge, so that when a sentence is handed down,
communication with the media is managed by a press judge rather
than the sentencing judge. I was not able to be there, but I know
the Committee heard that press judges actively engage with the
media on public interest cases in particular, even participating
in interviews. Committee members also visited the Helsinki
District Court, where judges were encouraged to write their own
press notices following the passing of a sentence, in order to
take the news into their own hands. As a result, early reports on
a sentence were often based upon the judge's press notice,
ensuring greater accuracy in initial media accounts of the
sentencing decision. That is something we could consider.
Ultimately, we have to accept that the term “life sentence” is at
the root of the problem. It is too easily misunderstood and
therefore too easily misreported. If terminology is causing a
problem, we should change it. We just do not need the term. The
judiciary can describe and report what they are doing: passing a
minimum term with an opportunity for future release, followed by
continuous monitoring on licence. I do not expect extinguishing
the term to cause an overnight change. The media and public
bodies are used to using it and “jailed for life” is a catchy
headline, but over time we could see a change and have a more
honest understanding of our judicial system.
It may be that I and those who share my views have no more
success in making the case for changes on the matter of
substance—the sentences actually being served—but at least we
will be making that case in a more honest environment. I am
arguing for transparency in sentencing, because I know that that
is important to victims of crime and their families, and to the
public. I hope the Minister sees the value in that, and will
reflect on what I have said and try to find a positive way
forward.
5.22pm
The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Justice ()
It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Sir Mark. I
start by thanking and congratulating my hon. Friend the Member
for Crewe and Nantwich (Dr Mullan) on securing a debate on this
important subject. I commend him on his excellent work supporting
victims, bringing these important issues to the attention of
parliamentarians, and campaigning for sentencing changes. I
completely agree that sentencing fitting the crime and improving
public understanding is vital to public confidence in the justice
system. As he mentioned, he is an active and engaged member of
the Justice Committee, whose vital report, “Public opinion and
understanding of sentencing”, I will refer to later in my
speech.
A life sentence is the most severe punishment that our courts can
impose. It is vital that the public have confidence in
sentencing, and are able to understand the circumstances in which
sentences are given and how they operate in practice. Our efforts
to ensure that the justice system is open and transparent are
embedded in the working cultures, procedures and practices of our
courts and tribunals; consequently, such considerations will
always form part of the ambitions for reforming the justice
system.
The availability of judgments and the accessibility of sentencing
remarks, including those given in life sentence cases, are key
components of the principle of open justice, helping to build
understanding and confidence in sentencing. The Sentencing Act
2020 puts a duty on the courts to explain how they have
determined the sentence and what the sentence means for the
offender.
My hon. Friend has extensive knowledge of the sentencing
framework, but it may be helpful if I set out some information on
life sentences. Life sentences, which apply to a range of
offences, usually have a minimum term, which is set by the court,
as my hon. Friend said. This period must be served in prison in
full before the offender can be considered for release, at the
discretion of the Parole Board. The minimum term is for the
purposes of punishment and deterrence. It is essential that
sentences for the gravest offence—murder—and other offences
sufficiently serious to attract a life sentence have a minimum
term that punishes the convicted offender and acts as a deterrent
to others.
Mandatory life sentences must be imposed on anyone convicted of
murder. Schedule 21 to the sentencing code contains the statutory
framework for setting the minimum term. The schedule includes
starting points depending on the circumstances surrounding the
murder and non-exhaustive lists of aggravating and mitigating
circumstances. For adult offenders, those range from 15 years
right the way through to a whole-life order, as my hon. Friend
the Member for Crewe and Nantwich said. Many offenders on life
sentences remain in prison beyond their minimum term, and some
may never be released. If they are released, they will, as my
hon. Friend said, remain on licence for the rest of their life
and will be subject to recall to prison at any time if they
breach any of the conditions of their licence.
We have delivered and continue to deliver several initiatives
aimed at strengthening public understanding of sentences, some of
which we set out in January in response to the insightful report
produced by the Justice Committee, of which my hon. Friend is a
member. Our response described a wide range of actions that we
have taken. I want to focus on a few specific issues that my hon.
Friend has raised today, especially the terminology in sentencing
and the points he raised about the murder of a child.
Sentencing terminology is at the heart of today's debate. I agree
with my hon. Friend that it is important that this terminology
should always be accessible and comprehensible to the public. On
terminology used for life sentences in particular, the Government
recognise the concerns raised by my hon. Friend around
understanding how life sentences work and the phrase “jailed for
life”. We acknowledge his concern around the lack of
understanding that the minimum tariff set by the judge represents
the punishment part of the sentence, and the decision from the
Parole Board concerns only the public protection element after
the minimum tariff is served. It is not an avenue for early
release, as some consider it to be; however, I accept that it can
be misunderstood by the general public.
We have also noted that the Justice Committee's report highlights
the Sentencing Academy's work to review the terminology of
sentencing, which is an important piece of work that could
contribute to broader initiatives or proposals in this domain.
The Government, like the Justice Committee, await its findings,
and will review them with great care.
Most important, as I am sure my hon. Friend would agree, given
his speech, is the question of how we can support victims in
understanding this terminology. Under the victims code, victims,
including bereaved families, are entitled to be told the sentence
the offender received, including a short explanation of the
meaning and effect of the sentence by the witness care unit,
which is a police-led function. If they have any questions about
the sentence that the witness care unit is unable to answer, the
victim will be referred to the Crown Prosecution Service, which
will answer their questions for them.
To ensure that agencies know what is expected of them, the
Victims and Prisoners Bill places a statutory duty on the
relevant agencies to provide services in accordance with the
victims code, unless there is good reason not to. It introduces a
compliance framework by placing a new duty on criminal justice
bodies to collect and share code compliance information with
police and crime commissioners. We will hold a full public
consultation on the code once the Bill receives Royal Assent,
which I hope shows how seriously we treat today's topic.
It is important that we turn for a few moments to the role of the
Parole Board, which determines whether to release offenders
eligible for automatic release by deciding whether it is
necessary for the prisoner to remain confined. The Victims and
Prisoners Bill, which is currently before Parliament, introduces
a range of reforms to the parole process that are designed to
help to protect the public and to bolster public confidence in
the system. Through the Bill, we will codify the release test,
making clear that minimising risk and protecting the public are
the sole considerations for release.
The Bill introduces a new power to allow Ministers to direct a
second check by independent courts in cases where the board has
directed the release of one of the most serious offenders, which
would, of course, include those convicted of murder. We hope that
this measure will reassure the public that the process is as
rigorous as possible, and that there is an extra safeguard in the
release process for the most serious offenders.
In recent years, the Government have introduced several policies
to improve the openness, transparency and public understanding of
the parole process. In 2018, we introduced decision summaries,
which enable the Parole Board to provide victims and others with
an explanation of the reasons for its decisions. In 2019, we
introduced the reconsideration mechanism, which provided a way to
challenge a parole decision if it appears legally or procedurally
flawed. Finally, in 2022 we amended the Parole Board rules to
enable parole hearings to be heard in public, if it is in the
interests of justice to do so. There have been four such hearings
to date.
I now move on to my hon. Friend's points about child murder. I
want to acknowledge that all murders are terrible acts, but those
where the victim is a child are particularly so. The murder of
those most vulnerable in our society causes extreme grief and
devastation for the loved ones left behind. I understand entirely
why society feels it necessary to ensure that those responsible
for these terrible crimes are properly punished.
As my hon. Friend set out, under section 21 of the Sentencing Act
2020 the starting point for the murder of a child involving
sexual or sadistic motivation, or their abduction, is normally a
whole-life order. There may then be aggravating factors that
could result in an increase to the minimum term due to the victim
being a child. I understand my hon. Friend's concern that a
requirement for premeditation is too high a threshold for
imposing a whole-life order, but I contend that it is right that
we set a high threshold in legislation for the imposition of such
an order, which is the most severe punishment that our courts can
impose.
In this way, the requirement for premeditation is on a par with
the other circumstances that govern when the murder of a child
would normally attract a whole-life- order starting point—namely,
the murder of a child if the abduction of the child is involved,
or sexual or sadistic motivation. All cases of child murder are
rightly punished severely by the courts, and all those who are
convicted and given minimum custodial terms face long prison
sentences, possibly with no prospect of Parole Board release.
Dr Mullan
I recognise what the Minister says, but if he cannot express an
opinion from the Government on whether the situation should
change, that does leave a yawning gap. The cases that most upset
the public can be when a parent kills their own child, and the
circumstances are very often without premeditation. When the
public have heard us wanting to deliver a promise on child murder
and see these cases reported without the whole-life order being
applied, does he think that will lead to further frustration,
even if he thinks it is justified frustration?
I am a father, and I read some of the cases of child murder with
the same level of horror that my hon. Friend does. I have to say
that if my child had been brutally murdered in that way, I would
expect and hope for a whole-life order.
However, the point that has to land in the Chamber today is that
judgments are made, particularly in the press and in the general
public, that are not based on full knowledge of the facts
presented to the court. That is why we are trying to educate the
public on how and why sentences are being given in the way they
are. It is not possible to do that in every case, but it must be
done based on the facts presented to the court for the jury to
find the defendant guilty.
The Government have also increased the powers available to the
courts by raising the maximum penalties for acts of cruelty. As I
mentioned earlier, I just want to reiterate that there is no
early release for those who commit child murder and are given a
life sentence. The minimum term must be served in prison in full
before the offender can be considered for release at the
discretion of the Parole Board.
In the time that I have remaining, I want to touch quickly on my
hon. Friend's point about concurrent sentences. Judges will
generally impose concurrent sentences where there are multiple
offences arising from the same incident, or where there is a
series of offences committed of the same or similar kind,
especially against the same person. Consecutive sentences are
generally imposed where the offences arise out of
unrelated-factor incidents, even if they are part of a wider
pattern of behaviour.
As I hope my hon. Friend will appreciate, however, sentencing is
a matter for our independent courts. Parliament has provided them
with a broad range of sentencing powers to deal effectively and
appropriately with offenders. Courts also have a statutory duty
to follow sentencing guidelines developed by the independent
Sentencing Council for England and Wales.
Although sentencing is a matter for independent judges, the
Government have committed to locking up the most dangerous
criminals away for longer—to protect the public and deliver the
justice the public expects. Since 2010, average sentence lengths
have increased by 49% to the year ending June 2023. We have
introduced tougher punishments for the worst offenders, including
extending whole-life orders to premeditated child murders and
ending the automatic halfway release for serious crimes, which my
hon. Friend acknowledged in his speech.
We are going further still, and the Sentencing Bill will ensure
that rapists and serious sexual offenders serve their full
custodial term in prison. As acknowledged by my hon. Friend, in
the Sentencing Bill we are also adding murder with sexual or
sadistic conduct to the list of those offences that will become
the subject of a new duty to impose a whole-life order, unless
there are exceptional circumstances.
In conclusion, I am grateful for the opportunity to respond to
this debate, to my hon. Friend for securing it and to others for
attending—although I think they may be here for the next debate.
I found the debate very valuable in my consideration of the
issues at hand, and I hope I have reassured my hon. Friend and
those in attendance, at least to an extent, that I and the
Government continue to take these issues into account as we
strive to improve the criminal justice system.
Question put and agreed to.
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