Asked by Baroness Boycott To ask His Majesty’s Government what
evidence they have that power generation from biomass is (1) good
value for the taxpayer, (2) not leading to forest degradation in
other countries, and (3) compatible with reaching net zero
emissions by 2050. The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State,
Department for Energy Security and Net Zero (Lord Callanan) (Con)
My Lords, biomass plays a vital role in ensuring that the
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To ask His Majesty’s Government what evidence they have that
power generation from biomass is (1) good value for the taxpayer,
(2) not leading to forest degradation in other countries, and (3)
compatible with reaching net zero emissions by 2050.
The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Department for Energy
Security and Net Zero () (Con)
My Lords, biomass plays a vital role in ensuring that the
electricity system is both reliable and low-carbon by providing
dispatchable power when intermittent renewables are not
available. Generators receive subsidies only for electricity
generated from biomass that is compliant with stringent
sustainability criteria. As set out in the biomass strategy, the
Government will review sustainability criteria this year. The
Climate Change Committee is clear that sustainable biomass can
provide a low-carbon and renewable energy source.
(CB)
I thank the noble Lord very much for his Answer, but it seems
incorrect that we should fund any sort of forest degradation,
either in this country or in others, such as Canada or the USA.
We know that some countries are cutting down old-growth forests
to feed companies here in England, such as Drax. A tree planted
today, even if you replace it, is not going to sequester carbon
until, probably, the end of the century—certainly not within the
timeframe that we need. I hope that the Minister can agree with
me on that point at least. Can he also agree that, given the
short timeframe we are operating in, we should question, or
potentially remove, the renewable classification from biomass
electricity for the very big companies in this country, such as
Drax?
(Con)
I can agree with much of what the noble Baroness says but, like
everything else, the situation is more complicated than that.
There are many forests across the world—we are talking about
forests in the US and Canada here; they are not third-world
countries—that are renewable, sustainable and properly managed.
The vast majority of the biomass used is a by-product from
existing wood cultivation. The main wood is used for forestry,
boards, joinery, et cetera, and the by-product is used for
biomass. Not permitting biomass would not necessarily result in
those forests just carrying on as they are.
(Con)
My Lords, will my noble friend look clearly at developing more
home-produced products, such as fast-growing willow coppice, that
will both give a sustainable source of energy to Drax but also
help hard-pressed British farmers at this time?
(Con)
My noble friend makes a good point. It is not just Drax; there
are many commercial and domestic biomass boilers as well that I
am sure would be happy to use sustainable British-produced
biomass.
(Lab)
My Lords, when biomass subsidies were initially awarded, was it
envisaged that the Drax power station would receive more than £2
million a day in biomass subsidies, emit about 12 million tonnes
of CO2a year, and, last year, take more than 40,000 tonnes of
wood from old-growth forests in British Columbia—a practice,
incidentally, which Drax previously decried in its own
sustainability reports? If not, what criteria will the Minister’s
department use when a decision is made about whether subsidies
should be extended beyond 2027?
(Con)
The noble Lord posed a number of different questions. First, as I
said, sustainability criteria are extremely strict. They are
policed by Ofgem. I have spoken to the chief executive of Ofgem
about this—it is investigating the allegations. It is Ofgem’s job
to uphold the rules and it will not hesitate to take action if
the rules are breached. We have some strict sustainability
criteria, and it is important that Drax and every other producer
abides by those rules. Drax is responsible for about 5% of the
UK’s electricity generation, and noble Lords should be aware that
this is important for keeping the lights on, and for British
energy security.
(Con)
I agree that there is biomass and biomass, but in this case trees
are being cut down to provide wooden frames to replace steel
frames in construction, and are therefore contributing to carbon
reduction. I understand that the residue of that cutting down—the
sawdust and so on—makes up the pellets that we are talking about
now for Drax. Should that other side not be borne in mind,
together with my noble friend’s view that it is a very complex
matter? Just going for the obvious target often leads to the
wrong, opposite results?
(Con)
My noble friend is right. It is a complicated subject and should
not be the subject of easy sloganeering or campaigning. A number
of different issues are involved. What the primary wood is used
for is, of course, a matter for the US authorities and for the
Canadians.
(LD)
My Lords, yesterday at Oral Questions, the Minister— the noble
Lord, Lord Benyon—said:
“Biomass is a perfectly legitimate renewable energy source if the
wood that is being used is a renewable and sustainable
harvest”.—[Official Report, 12/3/24; col. 1897.]
My question is simple: can the Minister—the noble Lord, Lord
Callanan—confirm exactly what steps the UK is taking to verify
beyond doubt that no old-growth timber is being cut and burnt at
Drax?
(Con)
Of course I agree absolutely with the statement made by my noble
friend. As I said, I have spoken to Ofgem, which is
investigating. It is its job to enforce against these criteria.
My officials are in touch with those in British Columbia for
further discussions. However, there are many perfectly legitimate
reasons why timber would be removed from old-growth forests—for
instance, for firebreaks, diseased wood, et cetera. This is a
complicated issue. Drax is an important part of the UK’s energy
security. Let us make sure that it does this sustainably and
abides by the rules before we rush to judgment.
(CB)
Has the Minister actually studied the detailed and evidenced
findings of the last few weeks from “Panorama”, confirmed by the
Government of British Columbia, that Drax is, in fact, burning
wood from old-growth primary forests—rich, diverse habitats that
are over 150 years old and will take 80 years or far longer to
grow back—and that it is doing so in defiance of its 2017
commitment? Against wind, solar, hydro and nuclear, is not the
case for biomass as a source of renewable power fatally weak and
wholly unconvincing?
(Con)
As the noble Lord knows—we have been in correspondence on this—I
do not agree with him. As I said, we are in discussions with the
British Columbia authority. This is not a third-world country; it
is perfectly capable of sustainably managing its forests in its
own way. There are internationally agreed strict sustainability
criteria. It is important that Drax follows those rules. Ofgem is
studying its application and will not hesitate to take action
against it, as I have said.
(GP)
My Lords, I think we are missing a point with some of these
answers. The fact is that this is taxpayers’ money going on a
business scam. Why can the Government not see that?
(Con)
I do not agree with the noble Baroness—I often do not agree with
her. This is not a business scam. It is actually bill payers’
money, not taxpayers’ money, but we spend it on a number of
different sources, including those mentioned by the noble Lord,
. It is not an either/or equation;
we need a variety of different sources of fuel for our
electricity and our energy uses. If the energy crisis taught us
anything, it is the importance of not relying on one particular
source. Yes, we need wind, solar, biomass, nuclear and some
gas-fired generation in the short term. We need a resilient
energy mix across all the different sources.
(Con)
My Lords, on the general subject of renewable energy, in the
announcement yesterday of two new gas-fired power stations, an
announcement was also made that there were times when renewable
energy was not available to generate power. Does my noble friend
agree that this simply is not true? Tidal power is constantly
available.
(Con)
The noble Lord has asked me about this a number of times. As I
have said to him, we are supportive of tidal power and are
allocating funds to its development through the various CfD
auctions. But I think he will recognise that it is not yet
available at scale and in the quantities we would need. We are
very proud of our renewable resources: almost 50% of our
electricity production is now from renewables; we have the five
biggest wind farms in the world; we are easily the biggest
producer in Europe; and we are seeing lots of applications for
solar development. Renewables are great, but it remains the case
that they are not available all the time; we need more storage
and back-up, and need other sources as well.
(Lab)
At the risk of upsetting a few colleagues, I ask: is the Minister
aware that some of the forests in Canada and America were
originally planted for paper? The paper mills closed because
paper was not wanted; towns were decimated because they were
one-product towns for the paper mills. Drax came along and saved
some of those towns in the early days.
(Con)
I do not know the truth or not of that; I will take the noble
Lord’s word for it. As I said, these are complicated matters
involving a number of different factors.
The (CB)
My Lords, the renewable credentials of biomass are dependent on
the trees cut down being replaced by trees that survive and live
to full growth. Sure enough, the tragic disease and deer
predation of our English forestry means that biomass is not a
net-zero source of energy.
(Con)
I do not quite understand the point the noble Earl is making.
There are many sustainable forests across Europe and North
America, where, as he says, there are different degrees of
growth. Trees are cut down, and new ones are planted. For
instance, in many of the forests in Scandinavia, more trees are
planted than harvested, so it is a “sustainable plus” resource.
We should be careful not to dictate to the North Americans —to
the Canadians—how they manage their own forest resources. They
are fully developed countries; they have environmental movements,
as we do in this country; and they ensure that all their
production is sustainable. As I said, we are in discussions with
the Government of British Columbia, who are quite capable of
managing these resources for themselves without being lectured to
by us.
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