Cat Smith (Lancaster and Fleetwood) (Lab) I beg to move, That this
House has considered e-petition 648577 relating to a visa scheme
for Palestinians. I thank all the individuals and organisations who
supported the petition for their hard work in achieving the
threshold, particularly Gaza Families Reunited, which I had the
privilege of meeting in the run-up to this debate. For many of
those involved in supporting the petition this is an issue that
impacts on their...Request free trial
(Lancaster and Fleetwood) (Lab)
I beg to move,
That this House has considered e-petition 648577 relating to a
visa scheme for Palestinians.
I thank all the individuals and organisations who supported the
petition for their hard work in achieving the threshold,
particularly Gaza Families Reunited, which I had the privilege of
meeting in the run-up to this debate. For many of those involved
in supporting the petition this is an issue that impacts on their
loved ones.
Gaza Families Reunited is made up of 350 Palestinians living in
the UK with family in Gaza. They are calling on the UK Government
to establish a Gaza family scheme to enable Palestinians in the
UK to bring their loved ones to safety from Gaza until it is safe
to return. They note that the Government have previously
introduced successful bespoke pathways for those fleeing
persecution in Ukraine and Hong Kong, and argue that the same can
and must be done for Palestinians from Gaza. They point to the
Ukraine family scheme as something on which the Gaza family
scheme could be modelled.
Since 7 October, which saw 1,143 people murdered by Hamas and
around 3,500 injured, with 252 hostages taken, of whom 128 remain
unaccounted for, we have all seen the devastating humanitarian
consequences for all who are caught up in the conflict. It is
impossible to understand the pain felt by those waiting to hear
the fate of their loved ones taken hostage, or the grief of
families mourning 34,000 killed in Gaza. We hear terrible
statistics so frequently that they begin to lose their meaning.
However, each of those numbers are people; they are people who
have or had loved ones, hopes and dreams, and whose lives have
been irrevocably altered by the conflict.
I thank Noah Katz, who chairs Lancaster and Lakes Jewish
Community in my constituency, for giving time and sharing how we
can advocate for peace rather than stoking division, as well as
our common views on the need to see hostages released and a
ceasefire. Although the Jewish community in Lancaster is small,
it has strong links with friends and family in Israel In the seven
months since 7 October, they have provided support for local
Jewish families. The local Jewish community has adopted the Bibas
family, as part of the “Seder Seat For a Hostage” campaign by the
Board of Deputies of British Jews. I thank Noah for the way they
support Jewish families in Lancaster, including my own.
(Hornsey and Wood Green)
(Lab)
Would my hon. Friend agree that between the synagogues, mosques
and churches in our constituencies we see an incredible extension
of the concept of community and heart coming from our different
faith communities, school groups and others? They promote
togetherness and try to approach different problems from a
community point of view.
I completely agree with my hon. Friend. When we look at the
philosophy of faith groups and, indeed, the philosophy behind
every major world religion, it is one of peace and love.
To date, 34,000 Palestinians have been killed in Gaza, of whom a
significant majority are civilians. Over 77,000 Gazans have been
injured, and over 75% of the population of Gaza—1.6 million
people—have been displaced, often more than once.
(Manchester, Gorton) (Lab)
I thank my hon. Friend for the excellent speech she is making.
The Foreign Secretary has called the scale and suffering in Gaza
“unimaginable”, yet the Conservative Government are content with
sitting on their hands, watching the hundreds of thousands of
Palestinians left in Rafah suffer and wait to be killed without
offering refuge. Does my hon. Friend agree that our constituents
expect compassion from their Government, and that a vital part of
that compassion is to have a family visa scheme for those trapped
in Gaza with family members in the UK?
I hope that this debate will provide the opportunity to express
the compassion that I believe Members of this House feel on the
matter. I know the Minister is listening.
In my conversations with Gaza Families Reunited, I heard about
one family in particular that had been displaced five times—each
time a terrifying experience. Aid is still not reaching Gaza in
sufficient quantities, and the humanitarian crisis is worsening
daily. The UN World Food Programme says that due to food
shortages, Gaza is entering “full-blown famine”. That will only
be made worse by the beginning of the invasion in Rafah—the same
place Israel encouraged
Gazans to move to in order to be in relative safety. Hundreds of
thousands of Gazans are yet again being displaced and are being
forced to leave the only routes out of Gaza.
(Wirral West) (Lab)
I congratulate my hon. Friend on securing this incredibly
important debate. There are reports that almost half of the
agricultural land in Gaza has been destroyed, and this morning it
was said that the health system across Gaza could collapse in a
few hours. Does she agree that this only adds to the urgency of
this Government doing all they can to provide safety for those
fleeing this horrific conflict?
I absolutely agree with my hon. Friend. Indeed, food insecurity
is deeply concerning.
Ms (Westminster North) (Lab)
I am extremely grateful to my hon. Friend for giving way, and I
congratulate her on securing the debate and making a powerful
speech. Like many people in this room, I was proud to be able to
intervene in support of Ukrainian refugees, who were accommodated
by friends and family in this country. We have a large Afghan
community, and many people were disappointed at not getting
similar treatment. Once again, many people who have family and
friends in the Palestinian community feel that there should be
parity of treatment for people based on need, rather than on
where the conflict originated.
All I can do is agree with my hon. Friend. My experience was that
our constituents were only too willing to be hospitable when it
came to us taking Ukrainian refugees—indeed, there is that great
culture. I believe we have compassion in caring for our neighbour
when they are in trouble.
(Leyton and Wanstead) (Lab)
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(Brighton, Pavilion)
(Green)
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(Glasgow East) (SNP)
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I will give way to my hon. Friend the Member for Leyton and
Wanstead (), and then the hon. Members for
Glasgow East () and for Brighton, Pavilion
().
I am grateful to my hon. Friend; she is being generous. On family
visa schemes, when I wrote to the Minister asking if there was a
possibility of family visas, he wrote back saying that “our
approach must be considered in the round rather than on a
crisis-by-crisis basis.” Does she think that this is a fairly
novel approach? When there were crises in Afghanistan, Ukraine
and Hong Kong, schemes, whatever their merits, were set up to
deal with those individual crises. Why cannot that be applied
now?
I do not know whether my hon. Friend has been looking ahead
because I will come on to this, but I agree that we cannot take a
crisis-by-crisis approach. There is a huge problem for many
people fleeing conflict all over the world, and the lack of safe
routes is something that came up in conversations I had in
meetings before the debate with organisations such as the Refugee
Council. I am conscious that I have taken a lot of interventions
from my party, and I saw two colleagues from other parties who
wanted to intervene. I will give way to my colleagues from the
SNP and from the Green party.
I am grateful to the Chair of the Petitions Committee for opening
the debate and framing it the way she has. She is right to touch
on the situation not just in Rafah, but in Gaza. Given that the
Foreign Secretary is on the record well in the past of referring
to Gaza as an “open-air prison”, and with things only projected
to get worse in Rafah, is it not the case that many of us can
only conclude that, from the view of the UK Government, a
Palestinian life is worth less than one of someone of another
nationality?
I agree with the hon. Gentleman's assessment of the situation.
Indeed, I suspect that quite a lot of what the Foreign Secretary
has said in the past would serve well to influence current
Government policy.
The hon. Member is being generous; I thank her for giving way and
congratulate her on her introduction so far. Would she agree that
the current system is simply not working, because the requirement
to enrol biometrics at a visa application centre is simply
impossible to meet? The one in Gaza is closed, and people cannot
get to Ramallah or Jerusalem. In effect, people are caught in
this sickening Orwellian Catch-22 where they cannot enrol their
biometrics because they cannot leave Gaza, and they cannot leave
Gaza because they cannot enrol their biometrics. This is a
sickening situation to leave people in. Does she agree that this
is yet more evidence of the need for a bespoke family reunion
scheme, as was done for Ukraine and Hong Kong?
I very much agree, and in a few moments time, if I can make some
progress with my speech, the hon. Lady will find that that is
exactly the point I will make. I give way one final time before I
make progress.
Ms (West Ham) (Lab)
On that point, the Home Office says that it can offer deferral of
biometrics in some family reunion cases, but sadly for many
families who are waiting for those decisions, it becomes too late
because they die in Gaza just waiting for the decision. I hope
the Minister will tell us what he is doing to rapidly speed up
the process and remove unnecessary barriers so that family
members can get to safety.
I thank my hon. Friend for that intervention; once again, I find
myself in agreement. I will make a little bit more progress with
my speech, Mr Vickers, and not try your patience too much.
The Government's position, outlined in their response to the
petition in December, is that the UK recognises that there are
people impacted by the war who may wish to join family in the UK.
However, the Government are not making plans to create a bespoke
pathway for Palestinians, but continue to prioritise immediate
family reunification for British citizens and for people with a
pre-existing right to live in the UK for over six months. The
Government state that Palestinians can come to the UK through
existing immigration routes, but the petitioners wished me to
draw particular attention to the lack of safe routes out of Gaza
for Palestinians, and indeed for anyone in a conflict zone.
For their application even to be considered by the Home Office,
people must attend visa application centres to give their
biometric data, but there is no VAC in Gaza—it has closed—and
they cannot get through to Jerusalem or Ramallah. Until recently,
of course, people could pay thousands of US dollars to get out
via a private company, over the Rafah border to Egypt, but that
is now impossible due to the situation at the Rafah border. That
is another option that has been closed off; Gazans are now
effectively trapped with no way of giving their biometrics. There
is an option to apply for a deferred biometric enrolment, but I
understand that since the start of the conflict in October every
single request for deferral in Palestine has been refused by the
Home Office.
People living in the UK who have families in Gaza that they have
not managed to get out can do nothing but watch their families
suffer daily. One petitioner, Ghassan, whom I met last week, said
that his family had been displaced and evacuated within Gaza many
times before he managed to get them across the border to Egypt.
He said that
“there is no safe place in Gaza.”
That is the tragic reality on the ground today.
(Dwyfor Meirionnydd)
(PC)
The hon. Member is being very generous with her time. While she
is mentioning the people affected, could I just raise the case of
my constituent, Emily Fares, who has multiple family members in
the region? They were in Rafah, but half of them have now
disappeared because they were afraid in anticipation of the
likely Israeli military campaign there. She tells me that these
are people who have degrees and skills, who could offer so much
here if only the door was not so resolutely closed against them.
It begs the question: how is the humanitarian question being
answered here in the UK, and why are we refusing the skills of
these people?
I hope that the Minister has heard the right hon. Lady's
intervention, and that he might respond to some of her points in
his remarks.
For those who are able to get out of Gaza and into Egypt, their
future is uncertain. Palestinians have no status in Egypt, so
students, teachers, small business owners and so on are left in
limbo, out of immediate danger but unable to start rebuilding
their lives. It seems clear to me that events in recent years in
Ukraine, Gaza, Afghanistan and beyond mean that, as a country, we
need to look again at how we support and protect those fleeing
conflict. At present, there appears to be a grim lottery when it
comes to the question of who we are prepared to do everything we
can to help.
The immediate priority, however, must be Gaza, given the
devastation of the conflict and the lack of support for
Palestinians in surrounding countries. As with those from Hong
Kong and Ukraine, we can see a very clear need for a visa scheme
for Palestinians. The petitioners are asking a very basic
question: why should people living in the UK not be able to apply
to sponsor their family members in order to keep them safe while
the conflict is ongoing? If we were able to implement a visa
scheme for the people of Ukraine, why can we not implement a
similar one for the people living in Gaza?
(Stretford and Urmston)
(Lab)
Will my hon. Friend give way?
I am going to make a bit of progress.
Of course, there must be a right of return attached to any
scheme. Sadly, the history of the region has all too often been
one of dispossession and loss, and it is essential that any
Palestinian leaving Gaza can return to rebuild their lives there
as soon as they feel able to do so. There is a very real feeling
among Palestinians I have spoken to, and those who have watched
in horror the humanitarian catastrophe in Gaza, that Palestinian
lives somehow do not matter as much as those caught up in other
conflicts. I hope the Minister today will disabuse them of that
notion—certainly as far as the Government are concerned—by
responding positively to the petition.
I can see that Westminster Hall is very full and I know that many
colleagues are hoping to speak today, so I will draw my remarks
to a close to allow as many as possible to participate as fully
as possible.
Several hon. Members rose—
(in the Chair)
I remind Members that they should bob if they wish to be called
during the debate. I will set no formal time limit, but as
Members can see, the debate is very heavily subscribed, so would
they restrict their comments to about six or seven minutes? The
mover of the motion has been very generous in taking
interventions, but it would help if we can limit them from now
on.
I call .
4.45pm
(Poplar and Limehouse)
(Lab)
Thank you for calling me, Mr Vickers.
“The plight of Palestine refugees remains the longest unresolved
refugee crisis in the world,”
according to the United Nations. This was the situation even
before the current war on the civilians of Gaza. Through the
signatories of the petition today, including a large number of my
constituents, the strong feeling in our communities is evident
and clear. In Gaza, we are witnessing collective punishment,
destruction and displacement of human lives on a horrific and
unprecedented scale. Ongoing indiscriminate bombing has turned a
chronic humanitarian crisis into a catastrophe. For those who
survive, there is an imminent risk of death by disease and
starvation. Millions are displaced, but where are they to go? As
I speak, there is simply no safe space left for those fleeing
from Rafah. It would be helpful if the Minister could update us
on where he thinks people are to flee to.
Previously, many of us called for safe routes when Russia invaded
Ukraine, and some visa schemes were set up for Ukrainians. How
can it be that there are no safe routes for Palestinians to reach
sanctuary in the UK, even if they have family here?
(Edinburgh West) (LD)
The hon. Lady is making a very powerful point. I have been
touched by the fact that many of my constituents have written to
me to ask that very question: how can it be that we have a scheme
for the Ukrainians but not for Palestinians? That concerns them,
and they need to hear from the Government why it is the case.
I thank the hon. Lady for her intervention, and I hope that the
Minister addresses that point in his response.
How can it be that there are no safe routes for Palestinians to
reach sanctuary in the UK, even if they have family here? In
fact, humanitarian visa routes are rarely available to
Palestinians in any form, despite one in six of the world's
refugees being Palestinian. I have asked repeatedly in this House
why Palestinians are all too often treated differently. The
dehumanisation and devaluation of Palestinian life has been stark
and, to be totally frank, utterly appalling. History teaches us
that a people are dehumanised so that they can be killed,
displaced and starved with impunity, and indeed, so that they can
be denied assistance and asylum when they are clearly in need. I
know that many of my constituents have been utterly shocked at
the racism, Islamophobia and double standards. Something has been
fundamentally broken or revealed, however we look at it.
(Birmingham, Yardley)
(Lab)
My constituents feel very similarly to my hon. Friend. We have
rehoused a number of people from Gaza who came as family members
of British Gazans when the war broke out, and I have seen the
open-hearted nature of the help for those families. There has
been concern about there not being resource for what is actually
a relatively small group of people who this visa scheme would
apply to, but in fact, all the Gazans we have resettled into
Birmingham, Yardley were actually doctors, and are bringing huge
amounts of resource. Our communities, even in the face of the
racism my hon. Friend talks about, are ready with open arms to
help.
I agree with my hon. Friend that we are a place of sanctuary, and
we welcome refugees.
The political establishment has been totally out of touch with
the majority of British people on this. That will not be easily
forgotten. As young people across east London ask me, how is it
that the Government condemn certain countries for their human
rights records and crimes, but not others? Why does the right to
self-determination seem to be spoken about for some, but not
others? Why are some national flags celebrated but others
denigrated, or even effectively banned? Why are some deaths
mourned and others explained away? Why is it that, for the
Government, too many Palestinians have been killed or are
starving, but there is no condemnation of those who killed them
or are starving them?
Like many across the UK and around the world, I have always been
opposed to the bombing and displacement of civilians, but this
Government have supported it in Gaza. What did they think would
happen when they supported the openly declared intent to reduce
the entire Gaza strip to rubble? Whenever this Government have
been asked about the long-term plan for millions of civilians in
Gaza, they have been unable to answer. Instead, it was this
Government who withdrew funding from the United Nations Relief
and Works Agency shortly after the International Court of
Justice's interim ruling. It is this Government who help to
ensure that Israel has the weapons
to kill women and children. Indeed, it would be helpful if the
Minister could update us today on the latest assessment of
whether weapons from the UK have been used to kill children.
Whenever asked about how UK-traded weapons are used, the
Government provide pro-forma, general lines about ongoing reviews
and the licensing criteria. If those reviews are actually
happening, why can we not know what they reveal? Especially now,
when those living the reality of this horror are reaching out for
support to survive, it is this Government who turn their back on
humanity.
For some time now, parliamentary political discourse has used
migration—even the absolute horror of people dying in the English
channel—cynically and as a political tool. It is the age-old
phenomena of scaremongering and scapegoating. As the Government
erode our civil liberties and democratic rights, as they
disenfranchise and disempower, and as they attack the very fabric
of our communities through austerity, they foster fear and
division and they falsely point to migrants as the cause of our
alienation. In truth, it is overwhelmingly clear that the global
drivers of refugee movements are intrinsically connected to the
legacies of colonialism and empire, which live on to this day.
There is no doubt the British Government have a responsibility to
step up for the people of Gaza fleeing collective punishment, and
yet, shamefully, there is no doubt that they are still choosing
complicity rather than compassion.4.52pm
(Bolton North East) (Con)
I thank the hon. Member for Lancaster and Fleetwood () for leading the debate. It is incredibly important,
for a number of reasons, to consider that Palestinian individuals
affected by the war should be allowed into the UK, just as we
have done for Ukraine. Currently, there is no bespoke visa scheme
for Palestinians to allow them to come to the UK in much the way
that there has been for Ukrainians.
I will keep my remarks fairly short, and I will touch first on
the international community aspect. As we saw on Friday past, 143
countries at the United Nations General Assembly voted to
recognise Palestine as a state. I think that Palestine has to be
recognised as a state as soon as possible. I believe strongly in
the two-state solution, and only then can Palestine have the
recognition and the building blocks to join the international
community as a fully paid-up member. Also, aside from that
aspect, I want to go back to a point mentioned by the two
previous speakers in the debate, the hon. Members for Lancaster
and Fleetwood and for Poplar and Limehouse (). They mentioned that perhaps
favouritism was shown to some communities and not others, and I
very much hope that that is not the case.
I can only speak on behalf of my constituents in Bolton North
East, and today in the audience I count almost a third to perhaps
a half of our audience members as having a link to Bolton in some
shape or form. This issue is incredibly important for my
constituents. The hon. Member for Bolton South East () and I saw that on Saturday
when we attended a rally at Bolton Town Hall in support of the
cause of the Palestinian people, and the Gazan people in
particular. My constituents care very much about this issue, and
they believe that Palestinian lives are as important as anyone
else's.
Bolton is a place of fantastic diversity, and we have incredibly
good form in welcoming people from all across the world. I am
very proud to have a Muslim community in Bolton that numbers
almost 20%, mostly from Gujarati Indian backgrounds, but also
Pakistani, British and others. It seems like I and the hon.
Member for Bolton South East, whose constituency is beside mine,
are working as a team: we attended the opening of a new medical
centre in Bolton founded by an Afghan-British national. That
shows the impact that people from across the world can have on
modern-day British society. We should see people not as a burden
but as an opportunity.
Mr (Orkney and Shetland)
(LD)
I have to say that Orkney and Shetland does not boast the same
ethnic diversity as Bolton, but I have been overwhelmed by the
number of emails that I have received on this issue. The lesson
to take from that is that British people as a whole, whatever
their ethnic background or heritage, see people in harm's way and
want to help them. That is why there is the scale of support for
a visa scheme of this sort.
I thank the right hon. Gentleman. If a scheme to welcome
Palestinians came out at some point in the future, there might be
a challenge between us to house a Palestinian; I would be happy
to do that if such a programme existed.
With my Parliamentary Private Secretary hat on, I stand with the
Government on all policy issues, of course, but I have a question
for the Minister that my constituents are asking. Are Home Office
civil servants considering alternatives—one identical to the one
for Ukraine or others—that could help the people of Gaza? At the
end of the day, the Gaza strip has roughly 1.8 million to 2
million people: about the same population as my home region of
Northern Ireland. People have fled to Rafah, which pretty much
maps on to the same area as Heathrow airport; it has been
referred to as a city of children. Action needs to be taken. We
can do more, as a country and a people, for the people of Gaza
and Palestine in this time of need.
Mr (Birmingham, Perry Barr)
(Lab)
The hon. Gentleman mentioned that he supports the policies of the
Government. Will he then ask the Government to ensure that this
scheme is carried out straight away and that the centres provide
local support for people who want to enter the UK? As has been
said, people have not been able to register at biometric offices,
so there should be additional staff at the Egypt border to
facilitate those people. Above all, does he agree that there
should be an urgent ceasefire so that the scheme can take place
properly and be adhered to?
I thank the hon. Gentleman so much, and I agree with much of what
he said. Those in Gaza trying to get to the United Kingdom or
other countries via Egypt face considerable cost. I hope that we
are looking into that as a Government to find a way to alleviate
the pressure on those applying. My constituency office works
closely with another MP in Greater Manchester. A toddler had been
very unwell but was unable to come to the UK when the war broke
out. We have only recently found out that they have been
repatriated to the UK.
I agree wholly. For months on end now, we have been calling on
behalf of my constituents for an immediate ceasefire. Obviously,
the scheme that we are debating today is a short-term fix. The
people of Palestine—ultimately, the Gazans—want to be in their
home, which is Gaza; they do not necessarily want to be in the UK
for the long term. This is a short-term fix, but we need to look
at the long term: peace in the middle east—Gaza in particular—and
a two-state solution.
I promise, Mr Vickers, that I will not do too much more of this,
but I believe I was also involved in the case that the hon.
Gentleman mentioned. Any family reunification usually involves
grandparents, children, husbands or wives, but there are tens of
thousands of orphans in Gaza who have no immediate family and may
very well be ill, but they may have aunties, uncles or cousins
here in the UK. Any scheme that we design should ensure that it
understands that most people's—certainly children's—immediate
families in Gaza are all dead.
It is very sad that we have to be here today looking at what has
happened over the last seven months. We were looking at figures
in a meeting just held in Portcullis House for those
killed—36,000 people—and a total of 100,000, including those who
have been injured, since the outbreak of this. The trauma that
that will cause today, tomorrow and well into the future is
something that people will find incredibly difficult. Looking at
our own case in Northern Ireland, 3,500 people died in the
troubles over the space of 30 to 40 years, but this is compacted
times 10 into the space of seven months. It is deeply saddening.
I will end by reiterating that there is so much we can do as a
country and as the international community, as we saw on Friday
past with 143 people getting behind Palestine and calling for a
two-state solution —not just as a slogan, but to be an action
point.
5.00pm
(Blackburn) (Lab)
Five hundred and sixty-seven of my constituents in Blackburn have
signed the petition that led to this debate, and I am grateful
for their continued efforts and support to raise awareness of
this devastating situation. Over 34,000 Palestinians have now
been killed since 7 October. Sadly, that includes 14,500
children. Over 78,000 people are injured and more than 8,000 are
missing, presumably dead under the rubble. A catastrophic
humanitarian crisis continues to unfold.
There are people at risk of serious harm, including from
indiscriminate violence in armed conflict. Can they claim asylum
in the UK? No, because they must be physically present to do so.
The Government highlight the availability of safe and legal
routes to get here, namely refugee resettlement programmes,
refugee family reunion visas and nationality-specific
humanitarian visa schemes. However, there seems to be a
reluctance to recognise that these are very rarely available to
Palestinians as they are currently ineligible for refugee
resettlement in the UK, and a refugee family reunion visa depends
on their having a sponsor already granted asylum.
This is a very emotional subject for me, because every day on the
television I see people starving. They have no water, food or
medicine, and it seems that no one actually cares. Mainstream
visa options are often insufficient. Palestinians with immediate
family in the UK can apply for a standard family visa, but that
requires family ties to the UK, which many do not have. My hon.
Friend the Member for Birmingham, Yardley () raised the issue of children
who have lost their families and have nobody to look after them,
sponsor them or get them here.
Sponsored work or study visas are not designed for humanitarian
purposes, and the associated costs and practical requirements are
often prohibitive. Visitor visas are often refused by the Home
Office, which is less likely to accept visitors who may claim
asylum in the UK, despite the devastation that is happening in
Palestine. In 2023, the Home Office refused around one in three
visitor visa applications from Palestinians. With the visa
application centre in Gaza also closed, people face great
practical difficulty in even lodging a visa application.
Existing visa options are simply insufficient in this case, and
the Government know that. We know that they know this, because
they widened the scope of the visa regime for Ukrainian citizens
and their family members following criticism at the time that the
system was not working. It was not working and they fixed it.
Members will recall that British citizens and permanent residents
were enabled to sponsor a much wider range of family members for
a visa than is generally permitted, and those sponsored could
bring their immediate family. The requirements to attend a visa
application centre were also waived, and it would be good if that
happened in Palestine.
I am aware of the Government's response to the e-petition in
December 2023, in which they said there were “no plans” to
introduce a special visa scheme for Palestinians, and I ask the
Minister why. I wrote to the Home Office in November seeking
advice on the Government's plans to support refugees from Gaza,
and specifically asking whether his Department intends to
implement a scheme similar to the recent Homes for Ukraine.
Calls for such a scheme have been growing for months. As I said,
every day children are dying while we sit back and watch, and we
need to act urgently. Lancashire Council of Mosques, which is
based in my constituency, wrote to its members at the end of last
year seeking views on its proposal to welcome orphaned Gazan
children to Lancashire. Everybody knows that Lancashire is a very
welcoming place, with caring and loving families who are willing
to open their homes and hearts to these children. I was heartened
by the generosity of that offer, which is testament to the
compassion and humanity of the Blackburn community. In January,
however, I received a disappointing response to my letter from
the Government to the same effect.
There is no safe area in Gaza. A Rafah offensive must not go
ahead, and the UK Government must do everything in their power to
make sure that it does not happen. That includes immediately
halting the sale of all weapons to Israel and helping with
delivery of aid. Only today, on social media, I saw settlers
totally destroying a delivery of aid, laughing and cheering as
they did it. It is sad—it is sad that as human beings, we can
stand back, watch that and not do enough to put a stop to it. We
need to work towards securing an immediate and permanent
ceasefire. I ask the Minister: where do the Government expect
thousands of displaced Palestinians to go? Does he actually
care?
Building on the precedent set by the Homes for Ukraine programme
and other nationality-specific schemes that have been established
previously, the UK Government now have an opportunity to extend
compassion and solidarity towards the people of Palestine, and I
urge them to do so urgently.
5.07pm
(Edinburgh South West)
(SNP)
Thank you, Mr Vickers—I was not expecting to be called so early
on. I thank Gaza Families Reunited and all those who signed the
petition, particularly my Edinburgh South West constituents.
I want to preface my comments by saying that I am a supporter of
the Balfour Project, which seeks to do three things: first, to
acknowledge Britain's historic role in shaping 20th and
21st-century Palestine and Israel particularly in
the light of the Balfour declaration and the policies of the
British mandate; secondly, to support Palestinians and Israelis
in building a peaceful future based on equal rights, justice and
security for all; and thirdly, to work for the British
Government's recognition of the state of Palestine.
While the British Government recognised the state
of Israel in 1950,
Palestinians remain stateless, exiled, refugees or second-class
citizens in their own land. I saw the degree to which
Palestinians are second-class citizens with my own eyes when I
visited in 2016 with Caabu and the charity Human Appeal, and I
refer to my entry in the Register of Members' Financial Interests
in that regard. The United Kingdom therefore bears a historic
responsibility for what has happened to Palestinians since the
Nakba, which should be at the forefront of the Government's and
Ministers' minds when considering this request for a visa scheme
for Palestinians. This visa scheme is urgent because of the
terrible situation in which Palestinians in Gaza find themselves.
The United Kingdom has a historic as well as a contemporary moral
responsibility to help out.
Many of my constituents in Edinburgh South West are acutely aware
of that and have contacted me asking me to support this petition,
a ceasefire and the immediate cessation of any arms being sent
from the United Kingdom that are being used against innocent men,
women and children in Gaza. Some of my constituents have a
particular interest as they are exiled Palestinians or have
family in jeopardy as a result of the situation in Gaza.
(Twickenham) (LD)
I, too, have been contacted by numerous constituents urging the
Government to set up this visa scheme, including Lama, who has
three elderly aunts sheltering in a church in Gaza, and Anwar,
who has already lost numerous family members. His parting words
to me when I met him were, “Are our lives so cheap?” I say to
Members and the Minister that if we all agree that their lives
are not so cheap, why on earth do the Government not set up a
scheme on a par with the Ukrainian scheme? Importantly, there
must be a right of return for those who seek refuge here or
elsewhere, given the displacement trauma that so many generations
of Palestinians have suffered.
I agree with the hon. Lady and particularly her last point about
the right of return, but the right of return must not be
cynically used by the Government to justify not having a scheme.
My constituents come to see me, as they do regularly at my
surgery, to talk about the plight of the Palestinians in Gaza,
particularly constituents with a connection. I am ashamed that
the British Government have not done more to help. They have done
so very little to help, and they are not honouring their historic
and moral obligations.
I will talk about one constituent in particular; her name is Dr
Eman El-Bahnassawy. She is a specialist dentist who managed to
evacuate her 79-year-old mother from Gaza to Cairo at huge
expense, as hon. Members will know. This old lady witnessed the
Nakba as a child, and she has endured all the recent wars on
Gaza. She is in very poor health and has already been displaced
nine times during the current war. Her home has been destroyed by
the bombing, so she has nowhere to go back to. Her daughter and
her daughter's family—I know that my hon. Friend the Member for
Glenrothes () has a relative of my
constituent in his constituency—are in a position to support
their mother, but they face huge logistical difficulties in
getting here. They look at the scheme afforded to Ukrainian
refugees and cannot understand why, in all conscience, the
British Government cannot replicate that scheme for people like
them. I have tried to raise this issue with a number of Ministers
on the Floor of the House, and at best I get waffle, but there is
really no substantive response. The Government are dodging their
responsibilities.
The hon. Member for Lancaster and Fleetwood (), who opened the debate so ably, explained the Catch-22
situation in which many Gazans find themselves, unable to get out
of Gaza. During the passage of the Illegal Migration Act 2023, we
were promised an announcement on safe and legal routes to the
United Kingdom, but I raised that in the House again last week
and was given a vague, equivocal answer. I want more detail and,
in particular, I want to know what urgent action will be taken in
relation to this situation.
As others have said, the UK Government have introduced bespoke
pathways for those fleeing persecution in Ukraine, Afghanistan
and Hong Kong. Where Afghanistan and Hong Kong were concerned, we
had particular historic and moral responsibilities. The proposed
Gaza family scheme is modelled after the Ukraine family scheme
and would enable applicants to apply to temporarily join their
families here. That is all we are asking, and it is not much.
These people will want to go back to their homeland.
In the absence of a specific family route for people to leave
Gaza and join family members in the UK, they can seek to rely
only on existing routes such as the family visa or the skilled
worker dependant visa, which are extremely limited. In and of
themselves, those pathways involve prolonged waits and hefty
fees.
Sir (East Ham) (Lab)
I agree with what the hon. and learned Lady is saying. Does she
acknowledge the point made by my hon. Friend the Member for
Lancaster and Fleetwood () in opening this debate—that people taking one of the
routes she has just suggested would need to apply for biometric
deferral, and every single application since 7 October has been
refused? Is she baffled by that, as I am, and will she ask the
Minister to explain why?
Cynically, I am not particularly baffled by it, because I know
that this Government have a strange attitude towards their
international legal obligations in relation to refugees. The
Joint Committee on Human Rights, which I chair, has commented on
that. The weight of the evidence we took from a number of
different sources was that this Government do not really properly
respect their obligations under the international treaties that
they are signed up to—so, cynically, I am not baffled but I would
like to know the Minister's reason for that.
Whatever the reason, the reality is that, as the hon. Member for
Lancaster and Fleetwood said, these people are in a Catch-22
situation. Of course, the Rafah crossing is now closed and the
situation is rapidly deteriorating, which makes this request all
the more urgent, but even those who, like my constituent's
mother, manage to get to Egypt are trapped in limbo once they are
there; they cannot join their loved ones in the UK, for reasons I
have already outlined, and they also lack access to state support
to rebuild their lives, meaning that many of those who have fled
the war are now living in uncertainty and destitution in
Egypt.
In addition to the questions I have already posed to the Minister
today, I want to ask him: when will the British Government
facilitate the safe evacuation of people applying under existing
routes, both now and in the longer term? If they will not do so,
why not? Why will they not set up a bespoke route for
Palestinians in Gaza to reunite with their immediate and extended
family in the UK, including a waiver or deferral of the biometric
requirements, until it is safe to return? What is the
justification for not setting up the short-term scheme that we
envisage? Does the Minister acknowledge the United Kingdom's
historic debt to the Palestinian people, and what, in their most
dire hour of need, is he going to do about it?
5.17pm
(Hampstead and Kilburn)
(Lab)
I thank my hon. Friend the Member for Lancaster and Fleetwood
() for leading the debate. She has championed the cause
of Palestinian people since we served in Young Labour maybe 20
years ago, and I am really pleased to see that she is still
championing this cause in the Chamber—maybe I have given away how
old we are.
Before I speak about a specific case that I want to draw to the
Minister's attention, I pay tribute to the bravery of those who
have been living in Gaza throughout the conflict. As my hon.
Friend the Member for Blackburn () said, everyone has seen the
appalling scenes on TV, but whereas we go about our everyday
lives, that is the reality for the people who are living there. I
hope that, when making policy and speaking in the House, we
remember the trauma and conflict that they are going through
every day.
Let me turn to a constituent of mine, whose brother's family have
been forced to leave their home in southern Gaza after it was
destroyed by aerial bombardment due to the fighting in the area.
He moved with his wife and his four children—the youngest is
primary school age—because he could not live there any more and
it was too dangerous. They arrived in Khan Yunis and were forced
to flee once again, with the four small children, to the border
in the city of Rafah due to the extension of the aerial
bombardment to that area. The family are now living without
access to water, food or basic hygiene facilities, and my
constituent is receiving regular updates from his brother, who
describes bombs landing less than 1 km away from where he is
sheltering with his wife and young children. We know that the
humanitarian situation in Gaza is catastrophic. My constituent is
desperately worried about the safety of his brother and the young
family, and he has been doing all he can to try to enable them to
move to this country and be with their immediate family
members.
I wrote to the Home Office about the situation, and am grateful
for the speedy response I received, but the reply made how
desperate the situation is even clearer. The Government's answer
was to inform my constituent that the visa application centre in
Gaza is closed, and to pass on the opening hours of the centres
in Ramallah and Jerusalem. This seems to have been done without
any understanding of the complete impossibility of getting out of
Gaza, and it is clear that families like the one I am talking
about cannot access these centres, meaning that the Government's
advice is completely unrealistic. Although I appreciate the
detail of the Government's answer, it is sadly nothing close to a
solution for this family. Does the Minister have any practical
advice that desperately worried family members in the UK can pass
on to immediate family members who are going through this
trauma?
That desperation has led other constituents in similar situations
to ask me for advice on paying up to $5,000 per person to a
private company in Egypt to get family out of Gaza. The companies
have put their prices up fourteenfold since outbreak of the
conflict. That is complete exploitation. It is not clear what
someone in that position should do. They are ultimately being
forced to consider extremely risky and extortionate routes,
because there are simply no other options available. There is no
way of knowing the legitimacy of such routes, or of guaranteeing
that they will get them to safety. Even then, they are an option
only for people who can get hold of that extortionate amount of
money.
Does the Minister have any information about using such private
companies as a route out of Gaza, and can he share the official
Foreign Office advice regarding the companies? Can he set out
exactly what my constituents—British citizens living in Hampstead
and Kilburn who have immediate family in Rafah—should say to
their terrified and vulnerable relatives, as well as any
Government assessment of what support these immediate family
members of British citizens should be entitled to? I am sure that
people in the Chamber, which is packed, know that my
constituent's family are not alone.
(Sheffield Central)
(Lab)
My hon. Friend is right to make the point that her constituent is
not alone. Many of us have taken up cases on behalf of
Palestinians trapped in Gaza, and have met the inflexibility from
the Government that she describes. Does she agree that that
inflexibility is completely out of line with the feeling of the
British people, who, looking at the appalling situation in Gaza,
would want the Government to respond to the petition by saying,
“Yes, we do now need to create routes for Palestinians to come to
this country” along the lines that she describes?
I thank my hon. Friend for his intervention. My mother came to
this country as a political asylum seeker in the 1970s, because
this country—our country, of which we are proud—has always been
seen as a safe haven for people who are escaping conflict or
places that are too dangerous to live in. We now need to show the
same compassion to people who are fleeing unimaginable situations
and trauma. I hope that the Government will listen—I know that
the Minister will—when we say that the advice that we have been
given is not realistic on the ground. We need practical advice
that we can give to our constituents, who are constantly writing
to us, petrified about their immediate family members.
Nearly 75% of Gaza's total population has been displaced by this
terrible conflict, and over 33,000 people have been killed.
Everyone in this Chamber will agree that the fighting needs to
stop. There must be a ceasefire, the immediate release of
hostages and a serious political process towards a two-state
solution. International law must be upheld, and it is has been
deeply shocking to see reports that indicate that it may have
been breached. The Government must ensure that Israel is complying
with international law, as well as with the provisional measures
set out by the International Court of Justice in January.
Ministers have a duty to ensure that the UK Government themselves
are fully compliant with international law when it comes to the
clear licensing criteria that apply to arm sales to Israel given the
developments in this conflict.
Finally—I know that lots of people want to speak—we know that
almost no aid is entering northern Gaza, and it is vital that aid
is allowed in as quickly as possible. The bleak picture in Gaza
is the situation of my constituent's family right now, and I am
desperate to help them. We need the UK Government to take the
strongest possible position to ensure that we get an immediate
ceasefire. We also need the Minister—I know that he will listen
to this debate—to look seriously at the desperate situation that
people are in; they have no one to turn to. I look forward to
hearing the Minister's advice on what I should say to my
constituent, who is desperately worried about his immediate
family, who are living in a war zone when they could be joining
their brother and his family in Hampstead and Kilburn.
5.24pm
(Belfast South) (SDLP)
I do not need to reiterate how dire conditions are for Gazans;
other Members have already set that out ably and movingly. There
is nowhere for Gazans to go, there is very little medical
assistance and there is almost nothing to eat—and ahead of its
latest brutalising assault, Israel has
designated the desert strip of al-Mawasi as a “humanitarian
zone”, although it degrades that word in the same way that it
degrades the hundreds of thousands of people who are trying to
exist there.
At other times here and in the main Chamber, we have debated the
other things that need to happen now—an immediate ceasefire; the
release of all hostages; the restoration of aid; the suspension
of the sale of arms; hopefully, in time, the recognition of the
state of Palestine, which I am pleased to say Ireland is due to
do in the coming days; and meaningful progress towards a
two-state solution, which is the only way that the people of the
region are going to escape these cycles of hell—but this debate
is about the small things that we can do to support the small
number of Gazan residents seeking to leave, and with direct and
established relatives here.
As all Members know and some have set out, the current
arrangements are not working and people are literally dying for
want of a solution. Members have set out that, of course, Gazans
cannot access biometrics. I wrote on behalf of a constituent of
mine and was cheerfully pointed to the other centres working
throughout the region. We wrote to the British embassy in
Jerusalem, which did not reply, and to other centres, and my
constituent Ahmed has been advised by immigration lawyers that
his application will cost thousands of pounds per person. Of
course, there is also an extremely high rejection rate, and that
excludes the approximately $5,000 payable to a private company,
Hala, which manages the border crossing from Gaza into Egypt.
I will not share the last name of my constituent, Ahmed—he is
going through the unimaginable at the moment; we do not need to
add the invasion of his privacy to that—but I will say that he
has lived in Belfast for many years, working in industry and in
academia, and contributing to the economic and civic life of our
city and the future of our region. Ahmed told me how the last few
months have been for his family: his father lost his hearing in a
bombing and his mother sustained an arm injury, which continues
to be infected. They were, of course, displaced from their home.
They also lost their business—a pharmacy—and Ahmed has just told
me about the impossibility of maintaining anything approaching a
dignified life.
We can barely comprehend the toll on individual families. Ahmed
spoke to me about the loss of his uncle, a blind man, and about
his cousin's niece and nephew, aged five and seven; as so many of
us have heard, the old and the young are bearing the brunt. Ahmed
has also been telling me about his family's daily struggle to
meet their most basic needs, notably for food, water and
sanitation, and even if—please God—this war, or this phase of
this war, ends soon, we know that the infrastructure in that part
of the world has been devastated.
Not everybody in Gaza is seeking to leave—of course they are not;
they just want to live peacefully in their home place. Small
numbers will leave and go elsewhere in the region, but some in
Gaza have their closest relatives here, with the means to give
them comfort and some sort of a future. Who of us in this room
would not do exactly that for our parents or other close
relatives if they were living in such circumstances?
The current impossible barriers—biometrics, visa fees, high
rejection rates, and border crossing fees—effectively mean that
we have no scheme. That is not just, it is not proportionate and
it is not moral. I say to the Minister that there is a lot we
could do that we are not doing and there is a lot that we are
still able to do. The creation of a visa scheme is something
practical that we can do, but I look forward to hearing the
Minister's reasons why we should not proceed.
5.29pm
(Ilford South) (Lab)
It is an honour to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Vickers. I
thank my good friend, my hon. Friend the Member for Lancaster and
Fleetwood (), for bringing this debate to the House today.
I will not repeat just how severe the situation in Gaza is; we
have already heard powerful speeches about that from many Members
from across the country, including from my near-neighbour, my
hon. Friend the Member for Poplar and Limehouse (). I will just say
this: Israel the only
democracy in the middle east, has really now destroyed its moral
integrity. Many of us who talk to people in both Palestine
and Israel know that if
there is not a just solution, recognition for what has gone on
and consequences for those who have advocated —in the most
extreme terms, in the case of the Israeli Government—for the
utter and complete destruction of Gaza, and the human cost of
that, with tens of thousands of children slaughtered, then it is
the beginning of the end of the international rules-based
order.
(Leeds East) (Lab)
I could not agree more with what my hon. Friend is saying. The
forcible displacement of civilian populations is always immoral,
and it is unlawful, but it is what Israel has been doing
to the Palestinian people. Does he agree that we need to hear in
the Minister's response, in addition to an agreement to the
proposed scheme, a clear confirmation from the Government that
the forced displacement of millions of Palestinians
by Israel cannot be
allowed to be permanent?
Absolutely. All of us in this House must recognise that our
country, more than any other, has a historic duty because of the
role that we played in the creation of the problem and the
conflict 75 years ago. No one in this House can stand and say
they support international rules-based systems if they do not
also say the perpetrators on both sides of the conflict must be
held to account, and that the Palestinians must one day be able
to return to a country that is rebuilt, free and recognised by
this country—as the Irish are about to do, and as was done last
week in the UN. There is a moral as well as a humanitarian duty
on all of us to do that, and I will continue to push those on our
side of the House to go as far as possible on that basis.
(Bradford East) (Lab)
My hon. Friend has made reference on a number of occasions to the
international rules-based order. Does he agree that the blatant
disregard and mockery of that order, which has happened right
before our eyes over the last few weeks and months, should cause
the international community to hang its head in shame? Does he
also agree that, in this debate about the proposed visa scheme,
once again, double standards are being exposed?
My hon. Friend makes a very pertinent point. It is no help at all
to our international diplomatic and development efforts that many
countries in the global south are now able to turn to Russia or
China and say, “Look at the double standards of Britain and the
west.”
It is for that reason, as well as because of the tens of
thousands of constituents in Ilford who have written to me, that
we need to consider a scheme very similar to the one under which
so many Ukrainians have been welcomed into our country. That
scheme showed that the people of Britian have a great deal of
compassion for their fellow humans, and that they understood and
saw the savage butchery going on in Ukraine. In the same way,
people in my community would welcome to their homes, even if just
temporarily, Palestinians who need the shelter of our nation and
our people.
Like my hon. Friend, I am strongly supportive of such a bespoke
scheme for Palestinians. Does he agree that, as well as looking
to recent Government policy, we could look to the policies
adopted by countries around the world? For example, Canada has
given approval in principle to those seeking visas under family
reunion schemes and supported them to get to Egypt, so that all
people eligible under the scheme can get there, rather than just
those who have the money to do so. Does he agree that if that
support were in place then all Palestinians, on an even basis,
could get out to a place of safety here in the UK, admittedly on
a temporary basis?
My hon. Friend makes a very good point. The Canadian scheme has a
lot of merit, and I hope that Ministers look into it properly.
Let us remind ourselves that it was just two years ago that the
Government swiftly introduced the Ukraine family scheme, as part
of that which British citizens and permanent residents were able
to sponsor a wide range of family members—parents, siblings,
aunts, cousins, nieces and nephews—for visas. That sponsorship
scheme was open to Ukrainians with no family ties to the UK, it
was free of charge, and the visas last three years. Many of us,
including my hon. Friend the Member for Hampstead and Kilburn
(), have given specific cases of
individual Palestinians who have family members, both in the west
bank and in Gaza, who are suffering so badly. Surely, those
things could be brought forward as an immediate way for them to
be given a safe and legal path to refuge.
Nobody should have to pay tens of thousands of pounds to get
across the border at Rafah. We should be able to put in place
arrangements in our immigration system so that people can provide
their digital fingerprints and make applications in a way that is
right for our country, but allows them to leave quickly and
arrive at a safe haven on our shores as quickly as possible. On
top of that, where they are able to, I believe that those people
should be permitted to work immediately. Many of them are
doctors, academics and so on. The Gazan people are a highly
skilled, incredibly intelligent and well-educated workforce, and
many of them would love to make their contribution in return for
safety and refuge from the barbarity that they are facing.
5.36pm
(Glasgow North East)
(SNP)
Last Friday, I held a public meeting in Dennistoun in my
constituency of Glasgow North East on what more people can do to
help the people of Gaza. My constituents, like everybody else,
are feeling utterly helpless and it was important to get people
together to talk about it. Several of my constituents have family
members trapped in Gaza right now. Some came along to that
meeting, and they took great comfort in seeing so many people
with no particular connection to Palestine turning out on a cold,
rainy Friday night in Glasgow to ask what more they could do to
help. We heard unique perspectives from my hon. Friend the Member
for Central Ayrshire (Dr Whitford), who lived and worked in Gaza
for three years, and from Dr Ibrahim Khadra, who is the chair of
Palestinian Community Scotland. He told us that he has lost 70
members of his family. I thank them both, and I thank my
constituents for turning out to support Palestinians.
I was also honoured to be asked to host a meeting here in
Parliament for the Gaza Families Reunited campaign in March. The
meeting gave the campaign group a platform to speak directly to
MPs and peers about how and why we need a temporary family
reunion visa scheme for Palestinians trapped in Gaza. I cannot
tell Members how moving and upsetting it was to hear directly
from Amira, Roba and Ghassan, who are desperately trying to get
their families out of Gaza. Those family members are starving and
under continual bombardment, and they just do not know where is
safe and where is not.
In the UK Government's response to the petition, they said that
there are
“no plans to introduce bespoke arrangements for people arriving
from the region”
and that those
“wishing to come to the UK who currently have no visa can apply
under one of the existing visa routes.”
I have come to this debate directly from a meeting of the
all-party parliamentary group on refugees. It was the first
meeting of our inquiry into the so-called safe and legal routes
to the UK that we hear so much about. I am sure we will hear
about them again. If I were to write down the safe and legal
routes to the UK, I would not even fill half a sheet of A4 paper.
I could do it in really big writing and I still would not fill
half a sheet. I find the Government's response to the petition
quite insulting. We are used to a lack of humanity in official
responses, but this one is particularly cold. The description of
people “arriving from the region” does not begin to do justice to
the true horror of the situation for the millions of people in
Gaza who are desperate to escape to some kind of safety.
If I had one question for the Minister, it would be this: what
are the Government so afraid of? As we have heard, we opened our
doors to all Ukrainians fleeing that war, and rightly so. Guess
how many fleeing Ukrainians came here? Only 3% of the total. So
what are they so afraid of? Although we are finding lots of
words, no words are adequate to describe the horror of what is
happening in Gaza, and it just gets worse and worse. Israeli
forces have closed the only way out, meaning there is no way out
for people and no way in for essential aid. They have invaded the
only supposed safe space in the entire region, after explicitly
directing millions of people to go there.
This morning, we have been told that what remains of the
healthcare system in Gaza is about to collapse due a lack of fuel
and aid. I mentioned my hon. Friend the Member for Central
Ayrshire, who spoke on Friday night of the Scottish-Palestinian
health partnership that has been set up via a memorandum of
understanding between Glasgow University and the Arab American
University of Palestine. I encourage everyone to read up on that
really useful work.
The majority of people I speak to are stunned into silence when
they discover that we are not helping people to escape Gaza. The
assumption is that, like we did with Ukraine, we have some kind
of scheme set up to help refugees find safety. Earlier I
mentioned the APPG on refugees inquiry into so-called safe and
legal routes, which started today; we heard that the public
assume that we have a similar scheme for anyone fleeing war
anywhere in the world. Well, they are going to be surprised when
they discover the truth.
This morning, on my way into this place, I had a conversation
with a random person I bumped into in the street about this
debate and the petition, and the conversation went from general
disbelief to the inevitable question, “Why are the Government
letting that happen?” I told him about the rigmarole that people
are required to go through, and which we have talked about today:
to get out of Gaza, people need to enrol their biometrics at a
visa application centre, but that means travelling to such a
centre because it cannot be done remotely—but guess where the
nearest such centre is from Gaza? Egypt. People cannot travel
there because they cannot leave Gaza without a visa, and if they
do find the money to get out of Gaza and find themselves in
Egypt, they will be at the mercy of a painfully slow
decision-making process, or maybe even find that they are
ineligible under any of the existing routes to safety. It is a
terrible system, where profiteering is put before people, and the
Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Office is letting it
happen.
Most of my Gazan residents and constituents who got out did so
during the initial phase of the war, with British family members.
They were allowed to bring their families with them, as they were
in Israel where the
British Government laid on flights for British Israelis to be
evacuated. I have to leave and go to another debate, but will the
hon. Member seek from the Minister an answer on what the costs
were for our Gazan Palestinian constituents compared with the
scheme for those in the exact same conflict?
I absolutely will ask the Minister to answer that question. That
does not mean that he will, because I quite often ask questions
that never get answered, as do we all, but I hope he tries to
answer.
Roba from the Gaza Families Reunited campaign lives here in the
UK, and she crowdfunded to try to save her family's lives. She
travelled to Egypt to pay the ransom. As far as I know, her
family are still not here. I recommend that Members look up her
story; it is harrowing. The petition is a call for a temporary
solution—just to help keep people alive. These people do not want
to live here. They want to live in a free, rebuilt Palestine.
They deserve the right to do that, and we need to help them to do
so.
The Minister has been shaking his head every time someone
suggests that he and his Government seem not to care.
The Minister for Legal Migration and the Border ()
indicated dissent.
He's shaking his head at me again. Some things are a political
difference of opinion, right? This is a point blank refusal to
offer protection to human beings at risk of death. There is no
other way to describe it. He should be fighting for these people;
he should be using his power and influence as a British
Government Minister to save their lives. He can shake his head
all he likes, but if he continues to refuse, he and we will all
know the truth. As I have asked him on other occasions about
other issues, are he and his Government really content in years
to come to look back on what they did and what they did not do?
If not, do something. Do something!
5.44pm
(Hammersmith) (Lab)
I thank my hon. Friend the Member for Lancaster and Fleetwood
() for opening what has proved to be an extremely well
attended debate—at least as far as the Opposition parties are
concerned.
I want to challenge some of the false premises that the
Government have relied on in denying a visa scheme and some of
the myths that have been put forward. The first is that, in this
aspect of their migration policy, the Government are doing
something popular. The number of people who signed the petition
in my constituency and the hundreds of people who wrote to me in
advance of the debate suggest that that is far from the
truth.
I try to work closely with the refugee organisations in my
constituency; I visited a couple of them a few days ago.
Ukrainian open house is organised every month by two of my
constituents, Belinda Mitchel-Innes and Christian Howgill. It
provides a raft of services and advice to Ukrainian refugees in
the UK. West London Welcome, run by Joanne MacInnes and Leyla
Williams, caters to a wide range of asylum seekers, particularly
those living in appalling conditions in hotels. It supports them
in every possible way, from providing food to counselling. For
reasons we all know about, they are not entertaining Palestinian
refugees at the moment, but clearly the same rights should be
extended as have been extended to other groups who have sought
refuge in this country.
I am pleased to say that the Ukrainian open house was awarded a
civic honour last week, as indeed the West London Welcome was in
previous years. They are wonderful organisations that have the
grassroots support of many of my constituents.
One of my more famous constituents, , who led a debate on this subject
in the House of Lords last month, brings a unique perspective to
the issue. There were some very good contributions from noble
Lords of very different parties, but I am afraid to say a
flippant and dismissive response from the Minister there, which I
hope will not be repeated today.
I raised the issue with the deputy Foreign Secretary a few weeks
ago on the Floor of the House. As I did not get an answer, I will
ask the Minister the same question now. I said:
“Every month in Hammersmith, we hold ‘Ukrainian open house' to
bring together all those supporting Ukrainian families who have
fled that war. Every month, I am asked why there are not similar
visa schemes to allow Palestinians to join their relatives in the
UK, or to be hosted by families who wish to give them refuge
here. What is the Government's answer to that?”
I have a great deal of time for the deputy Foreign Secretary, but
his answer was inadequate. He said:
“The Government's answer is that the two positions are not
analogous; they are very, very different. The hon. Member will
know that we are doing everything we can to help individual cases
in both instances, and we will continue to do so.”[—[Official
Report, 19 March 2024; Vol. 747, c.
817.]](/search/column?VolumeNumber=747&ColumnNumber=817&House=1)
If the two situations are not analogous, I would like to hear an
exposition from the Minister on why that is the case. I will
challenge him, as others have already in this debate, on whether
the Government are doing everything they can, because that is
another myth that is being perpetuated.
(Bristol East) (Lab)
I know how passionate my hon. Friend is about this issue. Hearing
from colleagues today about individual cases has really brought
home what it means for the families who are involved and trying
to contact people stranded in Gaza. The impression that I get
from talking to the community in Bristol is a sense of community
injustice. Obviously they care about individuals, but unless the
question about why we are not treating them the same as we treat
refugees from Ukraine is answered, the suspicion is that they are
somehow being blamed for the crisis in Gaza. They are not to
blame. They are innocent civilians in the grip of a terrible
humanitarian catastrophe. They need our support just as much as
people in Ukraine.
My hon. Friend makes a very good point. I will come on to that in
a moment.
To return to what the Government said, this is a quote from the
Government's response to the petition today:
“There are currently no plans to introduce bespoke arrangements
for people arriving from the region who do not hold permission to
come to the UK. That means that immediate family members of
British citizens, and those settled in the UK, who wish to come
and live in the UK and do not have a current UK visa can apply
under one of the existing family visa routes. Individuals who
meet these criteria should apply for a visa to enable them to
enter the UK in the normal way.”
Then it helpfully tells people that the visa application centres
in
“Egypt, Jordan and Turkey are open and offering a full
service.”
Well, they are probably not too busy because there are not many
people from Gaza turning up there. I regard that as a cynical and
callous response to what the Government have been asked. Again, I
hope we will hear something a little better from the Minister
today.
My hon. Friend is making an excellent point. After years of
casework experience, would he agree that it was unusual to hear
from another Member in the debate, the hon. Member for Belfast
South (), that the mission in
Jerusalem failed to reply to a Member of Parliament? Does he
think that is lacking respect and understanding of what we as MPs
are faced with daily with our casework?
I do not know whether it was the embassy in Tel Aviv or the
consulate in Jerusalem. I have always found the consulate in
Jerusalem very helpful; the other, perhaps not so much.
The last point I want to make on these false premises is about
the idea that the scheme would be a way for Gazans and
Palestinians to come to the UK and live here permanently. That
has never been alleged against Ukrainians. We know the passion
with which Ukrainians want to return as soon as they can to their
homeland. The same is true to a greater extent for Palestinians,
as is clear to anyone who, like me, has visited the region; I
have visited Gaza several times, and I have visited the west bank
and spoken to Palestinians. Above all, they want the right to
live in their own country, recognised internationally and
governed by the rule of law. The Palestinians have been
campaigning for the right to return to their country for nearly
80 years, and it is frankly insulting to say that they are
looking at a way to permanently settle elsewhere. There is a
Palestinian diaspora around the world; there is a Palestinian
diaspora in refugee camps throughout the middle east. Most
Palestinians want to live in a free and democratic Palestinian
state.
I will bring my remarks to a close. This is a very important
debate, but it is on one—perhaps not the most brutal—aspect of
what is currently going on in Gaza. I begin to get sickened at
the way our Government are dealing with this matter. It is as if
they are a passive observer: “Is Israel breaking
international law at the moment? Have they, in fact, crossed a
red line by what they are doing in Rafah at the moment? As we are
not sending very much by way of armaments, perhaps it does not
matter or make a big difference to the number of people killed.”
These are deeply degenerate and obscene attitudes, when we see
every day on television or social media how children are being
killed in their thousands.
We have not said the right things. The Government have not even
called for a ceasefire, as yet. If they had done all those
things, maybe it would not have made a difference, but at least
we should be on the right side of the argument morally. What we
are debating today is one thing we can do. We can give relief to
those Palestinians who are in such extremis and need to come
here, who will be welcomed by people in the UK whether they are
their family or people who just generously want to give them aid
and succour.
I urge the Minister to both respond fully to this debate, which
his colleagues have avoided doing, and to show some sympathy and
humanity to those suffering in Palestine.
5.53pm
(Rochdale) (WPB)
I am going to leave aside the fact that this is all entirely
hypothetical at this point, because Israel has seized the
Rafah crossing in absolute breach of the Camp David accords,
which have the power of international law, having been adopted by
the Security Council. The Philadelphi corridor is completely
sealed, and this is the fourth day in a row on which exactly no
food or medical aid—none—has entered Gaza. Therefore, even if the
British Government move their show to the border, no Palestinian
would be able to get biometric tests anyway.
I congratulate the hon. Member for Lancaster and Fleetwood
() on securing the debate and commiserate with the
Minister, who will have to try to answer the literally
unanswerable to defend the literally indefensible. Sometimes one
detests a Government policy but can understand why they are doing
it, but it is impossible to fathom why the Government are
resisting the entirely inexpensive demand that this debate and
petition ask for. Hundreds of the signatories—391 of them—are my
constituents in Rochdale, who are always looking for ways to
demonstrate their support for the Palestinian cause, as you will
know, Mr Vickers. I declare an interest: one of my parliamentary
staff is one of those trying to get their family out of Gaza to
no avail.
The attendance at this debate is evidence of the massive support
that there is in the country for the plight of the Palestinian
people to be at least palliated by our Government, and that could
be done so inexpensively that I literally cannot fathom why the
Minister is going to rise and resist the demands made by the hon.
Member for Lancaster and Fleetwood. Leaving aside all the
historical reasons why they should, there is the fact that it was
in this very building that the entire Palestinian tragedy was
authored, when on behalf of one people our Government promised to
a second people the land that belonged to a third people. You
would think that that was a matter of historical guilt for our
Government that they might want to mitigate in some way, leaving
aside the fact that hundreds of our soldiers, police officers,
civil servants and staff of this very House were murdered in the
King David hotel. Our soldiers were left hanging by piano wire in
the orange groves of Jaffa, booby-trapped. Should the Government
not have a scintilla of guilt and responsibility for what has
happened to the Palestinian people in the past and in the last
seven months?
It is not true that our military aid to Israel is
minuscule. If we define it by completed pieces of ordnance, it
may be, but our components are in most of Israel's bombs and
rockets that are falling down on the poor people in Gaza, who are
defenceless prisoners in what the then Prime Minister, now
Foreign Secretary described as the largest
open-air prison in the world. He went on to say that it must not
be allowed to remain so, and that was in 2010. Now that he is the
Foreign Secretary in 2024, he turns his face away from the people
in that prison camp that he said must not be allowed to remain
so.
[Philip Hollobone in the Chair]
It is not just ordnance: we have flown 200 missions from our
sovereign base in Akrotiri in Cyprus. Who knew that we had a
sovereign base in independent Cyprus, a European Union and allied
country? We have the right to fly whatever we like out of that
sovereign base, and 200 times we have flown spying missions over
Gaza for the edification of Netanyahu and his gang in power in
Tel Aviv.
Our contribution to this massacre is very significant, both
historically and contemporaneously. What are people from all
sides asking here, some of them actually capital-F friends
of Israel They are all
asking for one small thing: that you at least allow people who
are citizens here and contributing here to get their old mother
out of Gaza, rather than see her, perhaps on their telephone,
being torn to shreds by a bomb that would not have been as
effective if it were not for the components being given from
British factories and targets being assisted by RAF jets flying
out of Akrotiri.
For goodness' sake, Minister, have some political nous. Millions
of people in Britain want you to do something. This you can do
with the stroke of a pen, and it would not cost you anything in
your popularity stakes with Netanyahu in Tel Aviv.
6.00pm
(Cumbernauld, Kilsyth
and Kirkintilloch East) (SNP)
I congratulate everybody who has been involved in supporting the
e-petition and the Committee Chair, the hon. Member for Lancaster
and Fleetwood (), for her excellent introduction to the debate. I
proudly put on the record my full support for a Gaza family
scheme.
It is impossible to imagine the fear and terror that every single
morning must bring to people who have loved ones living in the
midst of the utter carnage in Gaza. In the face of this
humanitarian catastrophe, is it really the Home Office's response
to do nothing and change nothing? That cannot seriously be an
acceptable response. The Minister in his reply will almost
certainly point to how the Home Office responded and engaged
positively in light of the horrors unfolding in Ukraine or,
indeed, Hong Kong. However, as others have pointed out, those
welcome measures simply prompt the question: why on earth not
Gaza as well? It is really not a big ask; in fact, it is the very
least we could do.
The existing rules are simply not working and are not sufficient.
Whether a person can join family members here depends first on
the category of leave or visa that the family member has—whether
that is as a refugee or with humanitarian protection, whether it
is as a UK citizen or with settled status, or whether it is with
some form of temporary leave such as for study or work. Given the
hellish circumstances in Gaza, the right to be joined by family
fleeing catastrophe should not depend on the type of leave that a
person has. We must be much more generous about the category of
family members who can apply to join so that it is not just
immediate family members, but parents, siblings, nieces and
nephews, and so on. We in this room would all want—indeed, we
would all demand—precisely the same if it was our relatives in
the same situation.
Similarly, the fees and charges that generally apply to many
applications, often amounting to several thousands of pounds when
the immigration health surcharge is included, should be waived.
In the face of such untold horrors, we cannot make family unity
dependent on a person's wealth.
Regardless of what changes the Home Office makes, or even if it
refuses to make any changes at all, the practical processes for
dealing with the applications must be fixed and improved. Even
for those fortunate enough to qualify for family reunion or
another visa that enables them to get here, the applications take
far too long, with many being left in destitution and in limbo,
usually in Egypt, where resident rights are often quick to
expire, along with any access to education for kids or to
healthcare or housing. That is of course if people are lucky
enough to get as far as Egypt—as we have already heard, the
closure of the Rafah crossing makes that almost impossible.
Even while the crossing was open, while the UK Government would
provide lists of British citizens who were thereby entitled to
cross at Rafah into Egypt, no such facility was granted to many
Palestinians, even if they were, or could have been, able to join
family here in the United Kingdom. Instead, they were left to be
subject to essentially extortion by an Egyptian company called
Hala and forced to pay $5,000 per adult or $2,500 per child in
cash to cross, and only first-degree relatives of people
physically present in Egypt could even do that.
The cost meant that people were having to make absolutely
impossible choices. They were having to start their journeys with
a crowdfunder, and then ask themselves, “Well, we've got enough
to bring a parent, but perhaps we should take a niece instead.”
What a choice to leave folk to make. The ability to reunite with
family in safety should not be open to such extortion, and people
should not be left to face such choices. We call on the
Government to work with counterparts to secure an evacuation from
Gaza of individuals with UK family members, without them being
subject to that additional worry, just like the Canadians have
managed, as we have heard.
(Edinburgh East) (SNP)
I thank my hon. Friend for making that point. Like others, I have
been trying to get people out of Gaza and here to a place of
safety with their relatives in the UK. Like others, I have been
advised by the Home Office that schemes are available that people
should apply to. Like others, I have found that the barriers to
those schemes, the level of evidence required and the costs
involved mean that they are simply not appropriate or effective.
Is it not really the case that, by design, the existing schemes
cannot work in an emergency situation in which there is ongoing
conflict? That is why we need a new scheme.
My hon. Friend is absolutely right. The existing visa schemes
were not designed to help people out of a war-torn hellhole. They
were designed to allow folk to come here as family members, as
spouses, to study or to work. We need a bespoke arrangement that
is designed for the catastrophe that is unfolding before our very
eyes.
Surely it is actually worse than that. The rules are so
outrageous that even a person who was unfamiliar with them would
see instantly that they are not going to work, because people
simply cannot get to the place they need to reach to they get the
required documents. Does the hon. Member agree that the tragedy
is that we first saw this with 1 million Rohingya people in Cox's
Bazar, where similar restrictions were put in place, and we are
now seeing the same restrictions on 1.4 million people in Rafah,
further exposing the double standard?
I thank the hon. Member for the intervention. I simply repeat the
point: the system is not designed for the circumstances that are
unfolding, and it is imperative that the Government get their
finger out and design a suitable bespoke scheme.
I join other hon. Members in calling on the Minister to rethink
his Department's utterly wrong-headed approach to biometrics in
war-torn countries. A few months back, I had an Adjournment
debate similar to this one on Sudan, with the Minister's
predecessor, the right hon. Member for Newark (). In Gaza, as in Sudan,
there is no possibility that in-country biometrics can be
provided alongside a visa application, so surely the common-sense
approach is to consider applications and to defer biometric
enrolment, as we are all arguing. If, subject to those
biometrics, an application is to be allowed, the applicant can
then commence their journey and provide the biometric information
either on arrival here or, if the Home Office is not willing to
go that far, in a third country such as Egypt.
However, rather than making things easier, the Minister seems to
have made the position tougher through new guidance about when
exceptions to biometric enrolment would apply. That is why not a
single application to defer biometrics has been granted by the
Home Office since Israel began its
offensive in Gaza, as we have heard. In the circumstances, that
is utterly incomprehensible. Given that the general country
situation makes it impossible to have biometric enrolment there,
people are left with a choice: either they have to take an
almighty gamble and make dangerous and often illegal journeys to
neighbouring countries to enrol their biometrics, without even
knowing whether they will then be allowed onwards to the United
Kingdom, or they give up. Making people take that decision is
astonishingly cruel.
The Minister subsequently wrote to me to set out reasons
justifying that approach in relation to Sudan, and I suspect that
we will hear the same today in relation to Gaza. The letter
repeatedly made the point that biometric information is vital for
security. But nobody is disputing that point. We are just asking
for a reasonable approach as to when biometric information needs
to be provided; we are not asking for it to be waived altogether.
We understand the importance of the checks, but the Minister
cannot be oblivious to the horrible problems that his
Department's approach is causing people who want to leave Gaza.
Frankly, the absence of any other good reason creates the
impression that the Home Office is more bothered about
suppressing the number of applications than it is about any real
point of principle. That is a depressing thought.
Reuniting people from hellish warzones with family here in the UK
is something that we should celebrate. We call on the Government
to facilitate that, rather than to obstruct it. A family scheme
for Gaza has my full support. It is not a big ask; it is the very
least the Government should be doing.
6.09pm
(Sheffield, Hallam) (Lab)
I thank my hon. Friend the Member for Lancaster and Fleetwood
() for the diligent way in which she started the debate
and highlighted many of the issues. I point the House to my entry
in the Register of Members' Financial Interests, which shows that
I received help in this area from the Refugee, Asylum and
Migration Policy project. I am also the co-chair of the all-party
parliamentary group on migration.
That thousands of people have signed the petition that triggered
this debate should be a sign to everyone here that there is
significant support and compassion for those who are fleeing the
violence and destruction of war, and for welcoming refugees into
our communities. We saw the same with Ukraine, with people
opening their homes and the reunification of families meaning so
much to people. I have raised questions about schemes for other
conflicts, such as Sudan. The Home Office's approach is seemingly
case by case, but the underlying policy is simply not fit for
purpose for those who are fleeing from war and persecution.
With Ukraine, the Government rightly responded by waiving all
fees, salary thresholds and language tests under the Ukraine
family scheme. That programme opened applications to all
civilians in need, and it significantly reduced the visa
paperwork. Those who could not reach a visa application centre
were swiftly issued with permission-to-travel letters on the
basis that applicants could finish the process in the UK. The
Government also extended the use of the “UK Immigration: ID
Check” app to Ukrainian nationals, which allowed applicants to
enrol digitally with their biometrics using a mobile phone. Those
measures demonstrate what can be done when the public support for
those trapped in conflict meets the political will that something
can be done in Westminster, showing that there are solutions to
the challenges that we will no doubt hear about from the Minister
shortly.
However, despite the mass support for the family scheme for
Palestinians, we have seen no action from Ministers on Gaza. In
fact, not only have the Government refused to implement a similar
scheme, they will not even waive the fees or relax the biometric
requirements for making a standard immigration application. I
would like to use this opportunity to ask the Minister: whose
crisis counts? What is the difference between a Palestinian
fleeing the bombs overhead in Gaza and a Ukrainian doing the same
in Kyiv? In his response about whether the Government would
consider introducing a similar family scheme for those in Gaza,
the Minister stated:
“In any humanitarian situation, the UK must consider its
resettlement approach in the round, rather than on a
crisis-by-crisis basis.”[—[Official Report, 15 April 2024; Vol.
748, c.
14.]](/search/column?VolumeNumber=748&ColumnNumber=14&House=1&ExternalId=9C9EEC9A-2CC6-4327-9868-DB0313C5BBF3)
The inaction of Ministers suggests that they have not considered
their approach at all, let alone “in the round”.
People in Gaza with family members in the UK remain trapped, with
no safe or viable routes to reunite with their families. Without
a specific family route, they can rely only on existing routes,
such as family visas or skilled worker dependent visas, but to
make those applications is nearly impossible. The closest and
most viable visa application centre is in Egypt, on the other
side of the Rafah crossing, which we have heard is currently
under assault and for some days now has been completely closed. I
understand that it is possible to apply for deferral to biometric
enrolment requirements, which I am sure the Minister will say,
but could he please tell us how many of those deferrals have
actually been granted? Is the number still standing at zero?
Given the unparalleled threat to civilian life in Gaza and the
UK's historic involvement in Palestine, it is hard to understand
why the British Government have not simply adopted the approach
they took in Ukraine. To the people out there, it looks
completely wrong.
It would also be wrong of me not to stress that, rather than
ad-hoc schemes for individual crises and countries, a solution
would be to lift the Government's in-practice ban on asylum
applications. We need more safe routes and more safe passage to
the UK for people facing war and conflict, the majority of whom
are children, have injuries or have family here. In the absence
of either safe routes or safe passage visas, it is time that the
Government did the bare minimum and introduced an emergency
family reunion scheme for those seeking shelter from the bombing
and the crisis in Gaza.
6.13pm
(Streatham) (Lab)
I congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for Lancaster and
Fleetwood () on securing this important debate. As
the Israel Defence Forces
ramp up operations in Rafah, there are no remaining safe zones
left in Gaza. Nearly 30,000 Palestinians have been killed, over
75,000 have been injured, and more than 1.5 million have been
displaced. I know that Members have heard those figures before,
but I think it is important that we repeat them as often as
possible.
People who have already been forced out of their homes are having
to flee once again. According to an interim damage assessment
conducted by the World Bank and the UN, $18.5 billion-worth of
damage to critical infrastructure has been done, and 74% of that
is housing. Eighty-four percent of health facilities in Gaza have
been damaged or destroyed, and those that are left are barely
functioning. Doctors are having to perform amputations on
children and perform C-sections without anaesthetic. It is worth
restating that under the Geneva conventions, the forcible
transfer of a civilian population is a war crime, as is the
deliberate targeting of civilian infrastructure. Yet, even after
the ICJ ruling, our Government's decision to keep supplying
military hardware to Israel and their
failure to push for a lasting ceasefire mean that the UK is
wholly complicit in creating the conditions for the humanitarian
crisis we are now witnessing. We have a responsibility to help
those who are suffering.
(Vauxhall)
(Lab/Co-op)
My hon. Friend is making an excellent speech. A number of Members
have highlighted the fact that the Ukrainian scheme was dependent
on our local councils helping families and welcoming them into
our boroughs. My hon. Friend and I share the borough of Lambeth,
which was awarded borough of sanctuary status in 2022 in
recognition of the fact that our constituents want to help, aided
by the council. Does she agree that in response to the issues she
is highlighting the Government need to do a full, proper
assessment of why they do not have a scheme in place, as
mentioned by many Members this afternoon?
My hon. Friend is absolutely right: the Government should do a
full assessment.
Unfortunately, the Government's response to the plight of
Palestinian refugees has been typical of their punitive approach
to people seeking safety. I found this out for myself when a
constituent of mine attempted to apply for his family members to
join him in February. They were rejected because they could not
provide biometric data. I was appalled to find out that the Home
Office actually put down in writing that this was because the
Government expect Palestinian refugees from Gaza to apply in
Ramallah, Jerusalem or a nearby country. They are effectively
telling people to travel through an active war zone to submit
information.
Besides the current conflict, Gaza has been under blockade for
years. People from Gaza do not casually leave and travel to
different parts of the country. They simply do not. His Majesty's
Home Office should be embarrassed to send such a ridiculous and
ignorant response—if not, I am thoroughly embarrassed for the
Home Office. Those seeking to leave Gaza are trapped in a
Catch-22 because of this situation. They cannot enrol their
biometrics because they cannot leave Gaza, and they cannot leave
Gaza because they cannot enrol their biometrics.
According to the Gaza Families Reunited campaign, at least two
Palestinians are now known to have died while waiting for the
Home Office to decide on their applications. My constituent
said:
“I do not think I'm being treated fairly at all. I came to the UK
on a work permit and never applied for assistance from the UK
Government.”
He just wants the UK Government to help his family. It is hard to
argue with what he says, because when millions were displaced by
Russia's appalling invasion of Ukraine in 2021, the Government
had the Homes for Ukraine scheme live in a matter of weeks. It is
right that that happened, and I believe the Government have not
done enough for Ukrainian refugees, but when the conflict began
in Gaza and thousands of Palestinians were displaced, and then
more than a million, where was the homes for Palestine
scheme?
All options are closed to my constituent's family. It is worth
repeating that the Home Office has rejected every single request
for biometric deferral and predetermination since 7 October. When
I wrote to the Home Office again, the response to my constituent
was:
“I have considered whether there are compelling, compassionate
circumstances in your case which would warrant a grant of leave
outside of the Immigration Rules; however, based on the
information you have provided, I have decided there is no such
circumstances in your case.”
We have 35,000 people killed, over 75,000 injured, people
starving and 1.5 million people displaced, but our Home Office
can see no circumstances for a grant of leave outside the current
immigration rules. That is an absolute disgrace.
In comparison, between 15 March 2022 and 7 December 2023
Ukrainian nationals could apply online without the need to enrol
their biometrics until after they reached safety in the UK.
Again, this was absolutely the right thing to do, but why are
Palestinians being denied the same conditions and compassion?
When the Minister responds, I want to understand the Government's
justification for these double standards, and I want the Minister
to understand why there are so many people right across the
country who believe that those reasons revolve around racism and
geopolitics.
There is nothing that Palestinians want more than a safe return
to their home. However, the inordinate civilian death toll in
this conflict sadly means that many Palestinians simply will not
be alive to exercise that right. From the Sykes-Picot agreement
to the Balfour declaration, the betrayals of McMahon to the
invasion of Allenby's forces, we have to acknowledge that it was
long-standing British policy to displace Palestinians from their
homes.
Our shared colonial history means that we have a unique
responsibility towards Palestinian refugees and a particular
responsibility to push for peace in the region, but it is a
responsibility that this Government have completely shirked so
far. I urge the Minister to listen to the thousands who signed
the petition, including hundreds of my constituents, and create a
Palestinian family reunion scheme. As well as supporting people
displaced by the war in Gaza, we need the Government to do
something about the root causes of that displacement, which means
suspending arms sales and pushing for an immediate and permanent
ceasefire.
6.20pm
(Glenrothes) (SNP)
Look at the number of people who have been here for this debate,
remembering that a lot have had to go because another important
debate is about to start in the main Chamber, and consider the
fact that almost two hours into it not a single word has been
spoken in defence of the Government's position on Gaza family
reunification visas. A lot of Members are trying to understand
their position. I struggle to understand.
I do not want this to be the answer, but I think it is because
the Government have become so obsessed with the view that any
immigration is a bad thing that has to be stopped if at all
possible, and so obsessed with the way they calculate net
immigration. They have worked out that if we allow a small
handful of desperate Gazan citizens to come here, that will
increase net inward migration, and that is a bad thing. Is that
where we have come to? Has the toxic, poisonous debate over
immigration in this place over the past seven or eight years
taken us to a place where we have a Government who would quite
literally—I make no apology for saying this—see innocent,
defenceless and desperate people die rather than allow them safe
passage and sanctuary among families in these islands who would
look after them for as long as they have to.
My hon. and learned Friend the Member for Edinburgh South West
() mentioned an elderly lady
who has two daughters in the UK, one living in Edinburgh. My
constituent Dr Lubna Hadoura has given 30 years of service as a
consultant in our NHS and has never asked for anything. She has
saved the lives of my constituents and others, and now she needs
our help. The response that came most recently from this Minister
was the same as those that have come from other Ministers—I
suspect it is word for word the same as the response that every
MP present has had, and it is almost identical to the response,
or non-response, to this petition.
The Minister was very upset when my hon. Friend the Member for
Glasgow North East () said some quite unpleasant
home truths about the Government's attitude. I will say to the
Minister that if he wants to take the last response he sent to
me, as Dr Hadoura's MP, and sit down with her and read to her the
reasons why her mum is not allowed to come here to be looked
after, then let him do it. I have not given that letter to my
constituent yet; I cannot bear to inflict on her the absolute
horror that she will feel when she sees how unfeeling this
Government—the Government to whom she has paid taxes for
decades—are to the plight of her elderly mother and, by clear
implication, to the plight of well over a million of our fellow
human beings. I cannot understand it. I cannot even begin to
explain to my constituent why it is that her mum and so many
others are just being abandoned.
In this case, this lady has managed to escape from Gaza. I have
not asked questions about how they got her out; it is maybe
better that I do not know. As my hon. and learned Friend the
Member for Edinburgh South West said, this 79-year-old lady has
had more home addresses in the last seven months than I have had
in the 63 and a half years that I have been alive. She is 79
years old. Most of the time she has been displaced, it was under
fire—very often literally running the gauntlet of Israeli snipers
who would take it on themselves to shoot random civilians just to
make the point that they could. Yet that is not sufficient
grounds to say that these people have to be got out of Gaza while
there is still a chance.
I know it is not comfortable for my constituent to hear her mum
talked about in this way, but I need to go through some of what
she has experienced. She has spent six months without any
privacy—and I mean literally no privacy at all for a 79-year-old
woman. There are no toilets and no sanitation. She has gone six
months without a bath or a shower; six months without the
medicines she needs to maintain any kind of standard of living;
and six months without being able to sleep for more than a couple
of hours at a time. In those six months, every single time she
went to sleep she said, as well as the prayer she says every
night, the prayer of submission before death, because for six
months when she closed her eyes she never knew whether she would
ever open them again.
This lady is desperately traumatised. She is so confused that
when my constituent managed to go over to Cairo to spend some
time with her, she found her sitting in the dark because she had
forgotten that there were electric lights and that just pressing
a switch on the wall would make the light come on. For so long in
Gaza there had been no electric lights, just as there had been no
power, no heating, no water, no sanitation, no shelter, no food,
no medicines—no anything.
One of the previous speakers said this is maybe not the most
brutal aspect of the horrors of Gaza, but I think it is, because
the fact that these people are not able to get out of Gaza is
something that this Government have the power to change on their
own. We do not need the permission of anyone else, we do not need
intense diplomatic efforts and we do not need the threat of
sanctions or embargos or anything like that. All we need to do is
to say to people: “It's difficult to get your families out of
Gaza, but you get them out of Gaza and we will get them here.” It
is not international law, or treaties, or anything else that is
preventing the Government from saying that. They are not saying
it because they have decided that their political priority is not
to bring these people to these islands. I have to say to the
Minister that if that is the Government's genuine view, it is
clear from this debate that it is not the view shared by the
majority in the House. I do not think that view is shared by the
Government's own Back Benchers; where are they to speak on behalf
of this policy? Nobody wants to defend it publicly.
If my constituents are anything to go by—and I do not believe
they are any more decent, caring or humanitarian than the
constituents of the other 649 MPs—there is a massive majority of
the people of these islands who are saying to us, “Yes, we know
it will cause difficulties, and yes we know it is an
exceptionally unusual step to take, but it is what we have to do.
We can't go on watching more and more innocents being killed on
our television screens, knowing that we have it within the power
of our Government to get some of them out yet they are doing
nothing about it.”
The elderly lady I spoke about is now in Egypt, so she is not
going to be killed tonight, but she still has no entitlement to
food or healthcare. Her family had to spend a lot of money on the
healthcare that she desperately needed when she escaped from
Gaza. Egypt does not owe her anything. Why is it up to Egypt? It
is simply because of an accident of geography that Egypt is where
she landed up. She has no ties to Egypt whatsoever; she does have
ties to Fife, to Edinburgh and to the United Kingdom. She has
family in those places who will look after her for as long as it
takes and who will do whatever they have to do for her, until the
one day in her life that she now longs for arrives and she can go
back to a Palestinian homeland that is once again fit for human
beings to live in. Right now, thanks to this country's great
ally Israel Gaza is not fit
to sustain human life on any scale and it is certainly not fit to
sustain human life on the scale of the numbers who are trapped in
Gaza just now.
Why cannot the Government, in among all their rhetoric, just own
up to the fact that there is no safe legal route out of Gaza?
There is none. There is absolutely no safe legal route for people
to get out of Gaza. The Government do not want to admit that—why
not? As I have said, they are clearly out of touch with the
people of Britain, they are very clearly out of touch with the
will of Parliament, and I think they are out of touch with the
will of their own Back Benchers. They are becoming increasingly
out of touch with any kind of humanity or any kind of care for
our fellow human beings, wherever they might be on this
planet.
The Government give excuses for not acting. They suggest that the
law says that they do not have to, and that international
diplomacy says this and treaties say that. I am not asking the
Minister to agree to a visa scheme because the law says that we
have to. I am pleading with him—begging him—to do it because the
collective conscience of this House and, I am convinced, the
collective conscience of the people of these islands is saying,
“Get these people out of Gaza, not because we have to, but
because we can.”6.29pm
(Bolton South East)
(Lab)
Thank you, Mr Hollobone, for calling me to speak. I also thank my
hon. Friend the Member for Lancaster and Fleetwood () for securing this debate today.
We have heard from many colleagues who have stated what is
happening in Gaza; indeed, we see what is happening in Gaza on
our screens every day. It is not that what is happening is being
done in secrecy; it is being done very openly and the whole world
is watching it happen. Indeed, the whole world has been watching
it happen for months and months and months.
The whole world has heard the comments of the various leaders of
the Israeli Government, such as saying that the Palestinians or
Gazans are the Amalekites, or the fact that leaders, defence
Ministers and generals are saying, “They are not human beings;
they should be in the Sinai desert.” They heard the Minister who
looked at the complete devastation of Gaza and said, “This is
such a beautiful site. We are looking forward to building our
homes there.”
We have seen the relentless bombing—bombing and bombing and
bombing. We are seeing children with their limbs blown off, and
women and other adults damaged. We have heard of people's skin
peeling off. We have seen real crimes being committed in front of
our eyes, yet all we have are platitudes from world leaders. They
say, “Well, Israel is going to
abide by international law,” or, “The IDF is the most moral army
in the world.” I do not know whether it is a moral army or not;
all I am saying to people is that people should see what is
actually happening in Gaza and draw their own conclusions.
We now have a situation where water, food, clothes, medicine and
generators are available and we can help the people in Gaza, who
are now stuck in a tiny space—1.5 million of them are displaced.
However, it is not a natural famine or disaster; it is purely and
simply because the Israeli Government will not let aid in, with
the illegal Israeli settlers playing their part to stop aid
getting in. What are our moral international Governments doing
about that? We can see it, so why is it that no one seems to be
taking real steps to help the Palestinian people and to get food
in? We have had some food aid drops, but they are nothing
compared with what is needed.
I will come on to the topic of this debate. It is only a small
number of people who are able to leave Gaza and join their
families in the United Kingdom; why is that not happening? We see
the destruction, and as many colleagues have said, those people
are not going to be a burden on the taxpayer or the state,
because their family and friends will look after and pay for
them. I know that those people will go back to their homeland.
One of the reasons why so many Palestinians are stuck where they
are in Rafah is that they know that if they left Palestine the
chances of them being able to return are virtually
negligible.
We saw what happened in the 1940s with the Nakba, where 700,000
people were expelled forcibly and not any have been able to come
back. Now their families and children are languishing in tents in
Lebanon, Jordan and the rest of the surrounding countries. There
are now approaching 4 million or 5 million of those displaced
people. For 75 years, everybody in the international community
has talked about how the Palestinians would be able to come back,
or about a homeland for the Palestinians. Nothing has happened.
That is how I know that of those people who will leave Gaza,
virtually all of them will want to go back—although, as someone
has said, the level of devastation in Gaza is absolutely
horrendous.
I am sorry to say that the Home Office's attitude to Palestinian
refugees—or even Palestinian visitors—over the years has been
incredibly harsh. I thank Julia Simpkins, who is a teacher in
Bolton. Every year, she gets young Palestinian students to come
over from the West Bank, Gaza and other places, to Bolton and
Manchester and they are taken around for about a week. Last time
she tried to do that, a few years back, visas were declined
without any reason whatever given. These are children, but no
explanation was given—that is the complete high-and-mightiness of
the Home Office.
With Ukraine and other places, we rightly intervened to help
people, yet we do not seem to be able to offer the same degree of
courtesy or help to the Palestinian people. What is it about the
Palestinians that is so different from the Ukrainians? I can
assure the House, their perils and suffering are as great, if not
greater—not that one should be comparing the sufferings of any
one group of victims with those of another.
I say to the Government, this will not cost money. As my hon.
Friend the Member for Lancaster and Fleetwood and other
colleagues have said, the scheme already exists. It is literally
copy and paste to apply it to the circumstances in Gaza and to
make the rules easy as well, so that people can get out.
I have a final thing to ask of the Government while they are
looking at this whole issue of Gaza, which we know is a big
issue. In Ukraine, many children were severely injured and had
amputations, and about 150 of them were accepted in British
hospitals by the British Government, who paid for them to have
limb reconstruction and other surgeries, or chemotherapy to treat
cancer patients, yet not a single Palestinian child has been
accepted. Not a single Palestinian child has been offered that
service, despite the fact that in hospitals, such as Great Ormond
Street Hospital management, are happy to take the children. None,
however, has been taken. I ask the Government to examine their
conscience—why? What is the difference between a Palestinian
child and a Ukrainian child?
6.36pm
(Hayes and Harlington)
(Lab)
I will follow up what my hon. Friend the Member for Bolton South
East () said with regard to the
evacuation of children, but I first echo what others have said:
there has been absolute unanimity in this Chamber, across all
political parties as well, with representatives present from each
of the parties. I have not seen that in this Chamber, possibly
ever. The Government need to recognise that, and that it is born
of—to be honest—accumulating concern, anger and distress about
what we have experienced.
Some months ago, when the initial proposal came up, many were
conflicted about whether it should be supported. They were
conflicted in the Palestinian community as well, because people
did not want to be seen to be complicit with what was—exactly as
my hon. Friend the Member for Bolton South East said—a second
Nakba. At that stage, many Palestinians remained within Gaza,
because they thought that it would be a limited action. They
thought—all of us thought, naively—that the world would not stand
by and watch this take place on that scale; a Nakba. I do not
think that anyone calculated the level of killings that were to
take place, and no one had any understanding of the scale of the
deaths among children in particular.
That is why I think there was that sort of conflation, or a real
contradiction in people's minds about whether to go forward.
Interestingly, as time has moved on and as the situation has got
so desperate—we have heard the stories today—people are desperate
to do anything to help and to save life. The obvious solution to
this is peace, a ceasefire. The obvious solution is that this
Government, along with others, tell the mass murderer—at the
moment, that is the Prime Minister of Israel—to halt the attack
on Gaza. That is not forthcoming, so the least that the
Government can do is to allow people to gain access to
security.
Some Palestinians have gained access to security, some in hotels
in our constituencies, but they have not gone through the route
allowed by the Government; they have come on the boats across the
channel. Here is the irony: they are now part of the categories
that will be targeted for Rwanda. There is an inhumanity about
the way the Palestinians have been treated—not just by the
Israelis, but by the Government as well. There is an opportunity
now for the Government to do something that is effective in
providing relief, comfort, succour and security to those
desperate people.
Some months ago I raised the question of the evacuation of
injured children with the Deputy Foreign Secretary. Voluntary
organisations here and in Europe were willing to work together to
secure access to health facilities for the most injured—not just
in Egypt, but in Europe and Britain. We were assured that a group
was being formed, co-ordinated by the FCDO, to enable the
evacuation to happen. My understanding is that that has not
happened on any scale yet, and today we discovered that the
health service in Rafah has virtually collapsed because of the
lack of fuel.
There were two hospitals operating yesterday; I believe there is
only one today. The bombs are still dropping. The children are
still being killed and mutilated, yet we provide no assistance to
allow those children access to health facilities beyond Gaza
itself. The least the Government could do is ensure that there is
an effective evacuation scheme for injured children, and have a
scheme, as has been set out today, to enable people to gain at
least some access to security.
I do not know how much more we can take from the Government. Our
constituents feel stressed and angry about the inaction of the
Government and by their complicity in supplying arms to the
butchers who maim the children. I ask the Minister to listen to
what has been said today on a cross-party basis, listen to the
individual cases, recognise the suffering that is going on and,
for God's sake, in the name of humanity, introduce a scheme that
gives some comfort, succour and safety to those desperate
people.
Hon. Members
Hear, hear.
Mr (in the Chair)
We now come to the Front-Bench contributions. The guideline
limits are 10 minutes for the SNP, 10 minutes for His Majesty's
Opposition and 10 minutes for the Minister. Then will have three minutes at the end to sum up the
debate.
6.42pm
(Glasgow Central)
(SNP)
Somebody asked me earlier what a Westminster Hall debate is. I
told them that, quite often in Westminster Hall, it is when
everybody comes together to agree and disagree with the Minister,
and so it has proven today.
We have come together in this place, cross-party, to agree that
there must be a Gaza families reunion scheme, allowing people to
come out of the hellish, unimaginable war zone of Gaza to get to
safety with those they love here in the UK. I think every street
in my constituency has written to me on this. More than 3,000
people have written to me on the ongoing situation in Gaza to
call for a ceasefire, the return of hostages, for aid to get in
and for a lasting peace and a two-state solution. The Government
have not done anything practical to respond to the concerns
raised by our constituents.
A constituent, Sama, came to see me in November. She has been
studying and working in Glasgow and is desperately afraid for her
family, who were living in the north of Gaza. They have been
moved and displaced multiple times—she does not know how many
times because she cannot contact them. She cannot hear from them
and does not know at any given time where they are or whether
they are safe. The last time I heard from her they were in Rafah,
which does not bode well for their ongoing safety, given what is
going on. She wants her mother, father and teenaged brother to
come to Scotland to be safe with her. That should not be too much
to ask.
I wrote to the Foreign Secretary and got the boilerplate reply,
as many others have done. It was not even from the Foreign
Secretary, but from the Minister of State, Lord Ahmad, and it did
nothing to help my constituent. As my hon. Friend the Member for
Glenrothes () said, it is difficult even to
give these constituents replies from this Government, because
they do nothing to offer them any comfort whatsoever. I appealed
to the aid agencies on the ground in desperation to ask whether
there was anything that they could have done to help, but they
regretted that they could not; they did not have those
powers.
Sama's father has a severe heart condition. He has high blood
pressure and diabetes and cannot get the medication he needs. As
the right hon. Member for Hayes and Harlington () said so eloquently, there
are no hospitals there either to help him get the treatment that
he needs. The home that this family had built for 30 years lies
in rubble and ruin. Sama showed me with pride pictures of what
that house looked like the last time that they were all together
in it.
Why is it that I have no answer that I can give to Sama to bring
her family to safety? She knows that there is no safe and legal
route, and other Palestinian constituents who were in touch also
have no certainty. One applied for asylum back in December 2022
and is still waiting for a response. They are not going to send
him back there: grant him the security that he needs. Another
gentleman has been in the UK for 18 years and as yet has no
certainty about his status. As Sama put it to me after one of my
surgeries, “There is no money, there is no food, there is no
ceasefire. There is no hope for those living in Gaza.”
More than 35,000 are dead and 80,000 are injured. The Gaza
Families Reunited campaign has brought a very reasonable request
before the Minister, and I commend it for all the work that it
has done on this. I will say something about the practicalities
of what it proposes. Hon. Members across this Chamber have said
that existing routes do not cut it and are not working. Family
reunion visas, visitor visas and student visas are not working at
all.
(Nottingham East) (Lab)
As the hon. Lady knows, the Home Office allows applications for
family visas only for immediate relatives, defined as partners,
children or parents of children under 18. That excludes other
close relatives such as siblings or parents of adult children,
for example. As a result, perhaps the only surviving relatives of
people with families in the UK might be stuck in Gaza with no way
of joining them. Does she agree that it is beyond time that the
UK Government introduced a Palestinian family scheme, just as
they did with the Ukrainian family scheme, and that in fact they
have a historical colonial responsibility to do so?
I entirely agree with what the hon. Member presented. The Gaza
Families Reunited campaign has set out the eligibility, saying
that it would include an immediate family member, an extended
family member or the immediate family of an extended family
member. That is so important, because we know that there are
people who now have nobody left. There are children who have been
orphaned and have not a soul in the world that they can rely on,
but they may have somebody they know is here, and they should be
allowed to come to safety. It is cruelty beyond measure not to
permit that to happen.
A recognised Palestinian refugee won a recent court case on this
issue, challenging the Home Office's refusal to decide the family
entrance clearance applications of his wife and children under
refugee family reunion rules on account of their inability to
enrol their biometrics in Gaza. That was described as being
“irrational and unreasonable” by the courts, and it is entirely
irrational and unreasonable. People are stuck, as the hon. Member
for Brighton, Pavilion () said, in a Catch-22 where
they need their biometrics to be able to leave, but they cannot
get their biometrics because they cannot leave. It is impossible
and illogical that that is the position, and it is in the
Government's hands to waive that requirement. It is in nobody
else's hands; it is in the hands of this Government and this
Minister to make the decision to waive the requirement for
biometrics. He could do it at the stroke of a pen this afternoon
if he so wished, and I would like him to explain why he will not.
As yet, we have not had an explanation of why, if it was good
enough for people in Ukraine to get that biometric requirement
waived, it is not good enough for the people of Gaza, whose
circumstances are absolutely grim.
The people in Gaza are having to bribe their way across the
border and are being smuggled out. This Government are supposed
to be against people smuggling, but people have no choice. It
costs $5,000 per adult and $2,500 per child, if anybody can even
scrape that money together. People are crowdfunding on the
internet to pay themselves across the border. What kind of system
is that? None whatsoever. And as my hon. Friend the Member for
Glenrothes and my hon. and learned Friend the Member for
Edinburgh South West () mentioned, they then get
stuck somewhere else. They get stuck in Cairo waiting for
something else to happen because this Government will not move
with the paperwork. It is absolutely ridiculous and cruel. People
could be here, safe and looked after, but they are not.
Turning back to the court case, disclosures were made that every
single entry clearance visa application from Gaza made from 7
October has been refused by the Home Office. If this is about
safe and legal routes, why are they automatically being refused?
We know from experience that even visitor visas—a third of those
last year—were refused because the Government do not believe that
people are going to go back to Gaza, and in the circumstances,
why would they? But even if someone could get a visitor visa, the
Government are quite likely to refuse it.
The right hon. Member for Hayes and Harlington mentioned people
coming over in small boats, but given the difficulty of even
getting out of Gaza, that is not a prospect for most. The House
of Commons Library briefing for this debate spoke about the
rarity of that. Palestinians accounted for 0.14% of the people on
boats, or 53 out of 36,704. They may well be sent to Rwanda after
fleeing a war zone, getting across continents, getting in a small
boat and getting to safety here. Can the Minister say whether
anybody who came in such a way will be removed to Rwanda? Will he
at least rule that out for some kindness to the Gazans who have
managed to make it to our shores to safety? Again, it is just
cruelty.
Hon. Members also raised the issue of people accessing medical
treatment here. The Children Not Numbers campaign has done a huge
amount of work to evacuate people in the past, including children
whose medical needs are absolutely dire. We have all seen on our
television screens, at a remove, the horror of children having
amputations without anaesthetic, and children whose lives have
been devastated at such a young age. They cannot even get those
children out for the medical treatment that they so desperately
require for their futures.
I am sure that the Minister will come out, as he always does,
with how Britain is a welcoming country, how we have done so much
to resettle people and how we should look at all these other
things we have done in the past. What we are asking is for
something now. It has been six months. He has had quite long
enough to come to a conclusion. He has had quite long enough to
design a scheme.
The Gaza Families Reunited campaign has given the Minister the
work on this. It will not be difficult for him to create such a
scheme. It was done for the people of Ukraine much more swiftly
than this. He is out of excuses. He needs to give the Gazan
people some kind of certainty that they can come to safety.
Otherwise, we will all know that this Government do not care and
are prepared to ignore the people of Gaza. It is
despicable.6.53pm
(Aberavon) (Lab)
It is a pleasure to serve under your chairship, Mr Hollobone. I
thank my hon. Friend the Member for Lancaster and Fleetwood
() for bringing forward this extremely important debate
on behalf of the Petitions Committee and the 103,000 constituents
across the country who signed the petition. I also thank all hon.
Members present for what has been an incredibly powerful and
moving debate. We have all been struck by how heavily subscribed
it has been and the high degree of unanimity in the views that
have been expressed across the House.
The terrorist atrocities conducted by Hamas on 7 October 2023
killed over 1,100 innocent civilians. They included cases of rape
and sexual violence, and the kidnapping of 250 people, the
majority of whom have still not been released. It is almost
impossible to comprehend the fear and anguish felt within those
families who have been torn apart, and the unimaginable pain of
the relatives of the hostages.
As has been stated so clearly today, the Israeli Government's
response and the subsequent war in Gaza has ended the lives of
tens of thousands of innocent people, many of them women and
children. It continues to cause untold misery and heartache to
hundreds of thousands more who have lost loved ones or had to
flee for their lives, and now over 1 million people in Gaza face
famine.
We should never forget that at the heart of this conflict are
human beings who simply seek to live their lives free of
violence, fear and intimidation, who want nothing more than to
protect their families and loved ones, and build a successful
future for them and their children. The urgent imperative is
therefore to bring an end to this war, and we urge the Government
to use every ounce of their diplomatic leverage to create the
conditions needed for an immediate ceasefire observed by both
sides, with the immediate release of hostages and immediate,
unimpeded aid to Gaza.
We have also been absolutely clear that the forced displacement
of the Palestinian people is unacceptable. The priority following
an immediate ceasefire must be for Gazans to be able to return to
their homes and their land, to begin to rebuild all that they
have lost during this devastating war, and to ensure that their
displacement does not become permanent. This will be made
exponentially harder by an Israeli offensive in Rafah, which
risks catastrophic consequences, and therefore, the Labour party
passionately opposes any intervention by the Israeli forces in
Rafah. Indeed, the shadow Foreign Secretary, my right hon. Friend
the Member for Tottenham (Mr Lammy), said in the main Chamber on
Tuesday of last week:
“The United States has said”
that an offensive in Rafah
“would be a disaster, the European Union has said that the world
must prevent it, and the United Nations Security Council has
called for an immediate ceasefire. Benjamin Netanyahu is ignoring
the warnings of Israel's allies and partners, the United Kingdom
included.” [—[Official Report, 7 May 2024; Vol. 749, c.
444.]](/search/column?VolumeNumber=749&ColumnNumber=444&House=1&ExternalId=28E1F1C4-2BE6-478E-9D06-029A429EDBC1)
The Rafah crossing is, of course, essential for moving
humanitarian assistance into Gaza, and therefore the safety of
those operating aid deliveries and of those receiving the aid
must not be compromised.
In tandem with that essential diplomatic work, and as the
humanitarian catastrophe in Gaza continues to worsen, the UK must
consider the impact on British residents and citizens who have
family in Gaza and are desperately seeking to ensure their
safety. We have heard the indescribable anguish of British
Palestinians regarding the fate of family members, including
orphaned children who are trapped in Gaza, and their struggle to
bring their relatives to safety.
For instance, we know of one father who is here in the UK,
desperately trying to reunite with his wife and three young
children who are currently trapped in Gaza and sheltering in a
house with more than 200 other people. His twin babies are
suffering with health issues, and his wife fears that she will
run out of milk to feed them. We have heard of the plight of an
unaccompanied 14-year-old boy who is alone in Gaza, having lost
both his parents and been separated from wider family, who seeks
to join his brothers in the UK, who are British citizens. His
brothers are settled and working in the UK, and are desperate to
have him join them. These are harrowing and horrific tales.
At the moment, these families and others like them have been
unable to leave Gaza. Even where they should qualify for family
reunion under UK immigration rules, they are facing
insurmountable barriers. For example, we have heard reports of
long delays in getting decisions or visas issued, and families
are also being told that they will not be given their visas—even
though they are eligible—until they have submitted biometrics
data. However, there is no infrastructure left in Gaza at all,
and it is completely impossible to get biometric data submitted
from within Gaza itself. Although biometrics could be submitted
from Egypt, the vast majority of these individuals and families
are not able to travel to Egypt without some kind of visa or
assistance from the UK. As a result, they are trapped.
This is a desperate and deeply distressing scenario, and I
therefore urge the Minister to look rapidly at the following
issues. Will the Home Office now defer the biometrics
requirements for those who are eligible for family reunion, but
cannot physically get out of Gaza, until they can get to a visa
application centre in Egypt or another country? Similar
arrangements were rightly made for Ukrainians, and could be
replicated for Gaza now, as other countries such as Canada are
already doing. Will the Government now urgently operate a scheme
whereby individuals in Gaza can have their family reunion visas
assessed either online or by telephone, as is the case with the
Canadian Government, and approved in principle before being
assisted to leave Gaza, with biometrics data then being submitted
in Egypt prior to travel to the UK?
Secondly, will the FCDO work urgently to ensure that all those
who hold UK visas or are eligible for family reunion, but must
leave Gaza in order to submit biometrics, are assisted to leave?
What co-operation has there been with Egypt on that issue, and
how will it be managed if the Rafah crossing closes altogether?
Will the Home Office and FCDO look urgently at wider obstacles to
family reunion for the family members of British citizens and
residents who are trapped in Gaza? What more could be done to
help British Palestinians get their relatives to safety? British
Palestinians have made it clear that their families who come here
will want to return home to Gaza as soon as it is safe to do so,
so right of return must be built into the process.
Given that the Prime Minister only has to give a month's notice
before a general election, and we are expecting that the Labour
party will be in power, I am waiting to hear the hon. Member's
answers to those questions. I am assuming that, if the Labour
party gets into power, the answer would be yes, but I want to
hear him say that: give us some reassurance.
I thank the hon. Lady for that intervention. We are saying that
there is a family visa scheme that exists but that is not
operational, so we have to make it operational. We are proposing
the method of in-principle assessment, followed by assistance, so
that we can then have the biometric tests in a visa application
centre.
The UK Government must continue to push for an immediate
ceasefire, the immediate release of all hostages, and immediate
and unimpeded aid to Gaza, and to work towards a two-state
solution, with a safe and secure Israel alongside
a viable and sovereign Palestinian state.
7.01pm
The Minister for Legal Migration and the Border ()
It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr
Hollobone.
It is fair to say that all of us in this House are deeply
concerned and moved by events in the middle east. The barbaric
attack perpetrated on 7 October by Hamas was an affront to
humanity. At the same time as we condemn Hamas, lament the loss
of life they inflicted and demand the release of the hostages, we
are also united in our horror at the civilian casualties and the
scale of the suffering in Gaza. Israel has a
right—indeed, a responsibility—to defend itself against the
threat from terrorists. As we have made clear repeatedly, it is
important that it does so in accordance with international
humanitarian law. I reiterate that point today.
Hon. Members will be aware that the Government have mounted, and
continue to mount, a large-scale effort to facilitate the flow of
aid that is so desperately needed. As the Deputy Foreign
Secretary said in the House less than a week ago,
“We want to see an end to the fighting as soon as possible… the
fastest way to end the conflict is to secure a deal that gets the
hostages out and allows for a pause in the fighting in Gaza. We
must then turn that pause into a sustainable, permanent
ceasefire.
Regarding the situation in Rafah, our position has been
consistent. We are deeply concerned about the prospect of a
military incursion, given the number of civilians who are
sheltering there and the importance of that entry point for aid.
Entry points for humanitarian aid, including Kerem Shalom, must
be reopened quickly to allow aid in. Israel must facilitate
immediate, uninterrupted humanitarian access in the south,
especially the entry of fuel, and ensure the protection of
civilians and safe passage for those who wish to leave Rafah. As
yet, we have not seen a credible plan to protect civilians…
In parallel, we continue to push as hard as we can to get
much-needed aid into Gaza via vital land routes, alongside sea
and air, to alleviate the suffering. Israel has now
committed to significant steps to increase the amount of aid
getting into Gaza.”[—[Official Report, 7 May 2024; Vol. 749, c.
443.]](/search/column?VolumeNumber=749&ColumnNumber=443&House=1&ExternalId=5C85F7C4-6990-4F53-B887-8CEF8D94D284)
(Ceredigion) (PC)
The Minister has outlined the many threats and dangers that
innocent civilians in Rafah are facing. Does he not accept that
he is actually making the case for the Government to introduce a
Gaza family visa scheme?
I will come on to address various points that have been made
during the course of the debate today, and I will answer the
various questions that have been asked about the Government's
position on this issue. It is of course the case that we continue
to keep under close review the arrangements that we have in
place, as Members would expect. I will also ensure that the
various wider points that are pertinent to colleagues in the
Foreign Office are raised directly with them following this
debate. It is important that the points made by the House that
are directly relevant to Foreign Office colleagues and their
diplomatic engagement with leaders overseas, as well as the
Israeli Government and others, are properly heard.
The Minister is being very generous in giving way for a third
time. Would he accept that, given the estimates from charities
that there are 17,000 orphans, we are dealing with an extreme
situation, and that there should therefore be a special scheme in
this regard, especially given our historic link with the region
and with this particular conflict?
One of the points that I was particularly struck by in various
remarks during the course of the debate was the issue of
admitting children to UK hospitals to access treatment and
support. Presently we have not received any specific
applications, but we understand that NGOs—such as the
International Committee of the Red Cross—are able to support
those requiring urgent medical treatment out of Gaza. Likewise,
Children Not Numbers supports children in Gaza to secure
evacuation and delivers aid to families. If applications come
forward, they will be treated with the utmost seriousness, in the
way that I think the House would want to see; I undertake to give
very careful consideration to any applications that come forward
in that regard.
Sir (Worthing West) (Con)
Will the Minister give way?
I will gladly give way to the Father of the House.
Sir
In one of the Government responses to the petition, they said
that applications could be made through “Egypt, Jordan and
Turkey”. Are we to understand from the Minister that there might
be a way of making applications without having to go from Gaza to
Egypt, Jordan or Turkey?
If I may, I want to come to that point in full later in my
remarks, because there are various related aspects that I think
are important to address fully. The arrangements are important
and I know that they are of real interest to colleagues.
To finish my wider point that is important contextually, we now
need to see all the various points that I raised in my
introductory remarks turned into action to ensure that aid gets
over the border and is safely and properly distributed. We look
to Israel to meet its
commitments to flood Gaza with aid. Turning now to the real
substance of the debate—
Will the Minister give way?
I will gladly give way, but I am conscious that there is quite a
lot to get through.
Does the Minister accept that food on the border is of no aid to
those who are starving, and medicine on the border cannot heal
those who need it, and that not being able to guarantee the
safety of civilians is essentially the reason that we need this
scheme urgently?
I would argue that the principal, most important thing is to have
a durable ceasefire that brings an end to the hostilities, and
one that is durable in the long term. That is the best outcome
for everybody in the region, but the House will recognise why
that is impossible with Hamas in charge in Gaza. We continue, as
a Government, to make these arguments, and we will continue to
make the argument that it is imperative that that aid is able to
flow in order to properly support people.
Let me turn to the substance of this debate. It is the case that
we are assisting British nationals and other eligible people to
leave Gaza, liaising closely with the Israeli and Egyptian
authorities. However, we do not control the Rafah border
crossing, and it is the Israeli and Egyptian authorities that
make the final decisions on who can exit Gaza. We are aware of
the unique circumstances affecting those who would like to exit
Gaza, and the unusual role of foreign Governments in seeking
permission to leave on behalf of individuals. The FCDO has,
therefore, been able to facilitate the departure from Gaza to
Egypt of Palestinians who have both strong links to the UK, by
having either a spouse or children under 18 currently living in
the UK, and currently hold valid permission to enter or remain
for longer than six months.
Will the Minister give way?
I will gladly take another intervention, but then I must make
some progress.
I am grateful to the Minister for giving way. I am listening
carefully to what he is saying. The fact is there is no safe and
legal route for Palestinians to come to the UK. Not only does he
refuse to set up a Palestinian family scheme—as every Member in
the debate has called on him to do, and as the Government did
with Ukraine—but, because of his Government's Rwanda law, any
Palestinians who come here by small boat, because they have no
other means of getting here, will be criminalised and deported.
Does he not regret—even a little bit—voting for that law?
I would argue that no hon. or right hon. Member should in any way
give credence to the business model of evil people-smuggling
gangs, who are frankly taking people's money and sending them to
sea in unseaworthy vessels, with no regard whatsoever for the
lives of those individuals. Terrible criminality is responsible
for those crossings, and all those crossings—[Interruption.]
Mr (in the Chair)
Order. The hon. Lady has had her intervention, and the Minister
is responding to it. She might not like the answer, but we cannot
have shouting across the Chamber, or the debate will become
disorderly.
It is a fact that all those individuals leaving French shores in
small boats are leaving what are fundamentally safe countries.
There is no justifiable reason for anybody to be making that
perilous crossing and putting their life at risk in the way that
we have seen. There have been catastrophic consequences yet
again: only within the past fortnight, that young girl lost her
life in the most appalling of circumstances. Evil criminality is
responsible for that, and we must be very careful in everything
that we say and do to ensure that the evil individuals
responsible for that criminality are not able to encourage people
to make those crossings. That is a very important point.
Let me return to the point I was making. Decisions as to who can
leave Gaza and enter Egypt remain with the Israeli and Egyptian
authorities. We will obviously keep the position under review, as
I have said. There are a couple of challenges that we have to be
mindful of: first, the practical challenges that are apparent in
getting people out; and secondly, the need to maintain biometric
checks to protect people here in the United Kingdom.
I think that the House will recognise that the security
relationship with, for example, the Ukrainian authorities is very
different from the one we have with the authorities in Gaza, who
are a terrorist organisation. I have referred to that previously
in various other debates in the House. There is an important
distinction, which has to be made, regarding the security
co-operation we had in the context of the immediate evacuation
from Ukraine of vulnerable people via that safe and legal route;
we have subsequently reintroduced the biometric checks required,
but in the immediate circumstances with which we were presented,
that security relationship and dynamic helped us make those
changes in response to that very specific crisis.
I will say a little more about those challenges because they are
materially important. First, on enrolling biometrics, setting up
a route would not address the wider challenges facing people
unable to exit Gaza to complete the application process by
submitting biometrics. Any change to the biometric requirements
would cause critical identity and security checks to not be
completed, which could expose the UK public to heightened levels
of harm. Regardless of that, it would not address the fact that
it is the Israeli and Egyptian Governments who make decisions on
who can exit Gaza and enter Egypt.
There is a strong basis for why biometric checks are vital. As I
say, they are critical to identity assurance and suitability
checks on foreign nationals subject to immigration control.
Checks are made against immigration and criminality records. We
have a duty to uphold national security as a Government and to
guard against public safety risks. There have been various
references to ongoing litigation. The House will understand why
it is not appropriate for me to comment on ongoing
litigation.
As I said in my speech, nobody is arguing that there should not
be biometric checks, but they can be done in an intermediate
country, such as Egypt. The Canadians operate like that, and the
Canadians are also much more successful in getting people out of
the country because they are on a specific list. Why cannot the
UK Government just do what the Canadians are doing?
There would have to be agreement around that. The hon. Gentleman
raised the issue of deferral in his speech. What I can say on
that is that we have agreed to predetermine a small number of
cases in line with published guidance. We will predetermine an
application where a person confirms that they are able to travel
to a visa application centre, they can satisfy us about their
identity and there are compelling reasons for doing so in the way
I have described.
There was also reference to fee waiver applications during the
course of the debate. People need to apply for a visa by filling
in the form and contacting UK Visas and Immigration; then the
compassionate element to predetermine or waive fees will be
considered.
The point about wider relatives was mentioned in a number of
contributions. Under the adult dependent relative rules, an
applicant must show that, as a result of age, illness or
disability, they require long-term personal care to perform
everyday tasks and that this can solely be provided in the UK by
their relative here. If this is not met, however, a decision
maker will consider whether there are compelling, compassionate
and exceptional circumstances to grant leave outside the
rules.
On visa application centres, although UKVI has a visa application
centre in Gaza, I recognise that it has been closed since 7
October due to the conflict. Therefore, those who exit Gaza into
Egypt can access UK visa application centres in either Cairo or
Alexandria. Both locations have good appointment availability,
with Cairo having 43% of capacity remaining for the week
commencing 12 May and 76% in the week commencing 19 May and
Alexandria having 74% and 93% respectively.
Statistics are very interesting, but we are here to talk about
people. Will the Minister accept my invitation to meet my
constituent and the constituent of my hon. and learned Friend the
Member for Edinburgh South West (), so that he can explain to
them directly why he will not allow them to look after their
mum?
I refer the hon. Gentleman to the point that I made earlier. It
may well be that he wishes to encourage his constituent to make
an application, reflecting on that point that I was able to set
out in response very directly to the points that he made in his
remarks. I think it is relevant in cases such as the one he
described. He knows, and his colleagues know—
My hon. Friend the Member for Glenrothes () mentioned that we have
constituents who are sisters and who have an elderly mother. We
have both spoken about this, and asked whether the Minister would
be prepared to meet our constituents. Would the Minister be
prepared to meet them and, if so, will he be prepared to give
them an estimate of the likelihood of the kind of application he
is talking about being successful?
I did not have the opportunity to finish the point I was making,
but the hon. and learned Lady will appreciate why I am not in a
position to be able to give authoritative immigration advice on
individual cases. What I can refer colleagues to are the points
that I have made and the various routings that people may wish to
explore in order to take their cases forward. I think she knows
from previous dealings that we have had, and her colleagues
likewise, that I am always very happy to engage with colleagues
in the House about issues and concerns relevant to their
constituents. That is absolutely no different in this particular
circumstance. I will very gladly meet both hon. Members to talk
about this matter.
Can I take the Minister back to the issue of children? In
January, I tabled an early-day motion asking the Government to
meet and support the organisation, Save Gaza's Children. I was
assured by the Deputy Foreign Secretary at the time, on the Floor
of the House, that that organisation would be linked to the
FCDO's group that was working to facilitate the evacuation of
children on medical grounds. This Minister has said today that
there have been no applications whatever, so clearly the system
established by the Foreign Office is not working. The information
that we have at the moment is that the European Hospital, which
was functioning, has now run out of fuel and is in blackout. The
Kuwaiti Hospital in Rafah received orders from the Israeli
military to evacuate this morning. The Al-Helal Al-Emirati
Hospital has stopped admitting patients over the last few days.
The health service is in crisis. Children are being maimed;
children are being injured. Yet the Minister has said today that
the system that we were promised some months ago is not
operational.
I will want to go and pick up that point with colleagues in the
Foreign Office and understand the specifics around it, but I will
refer the right hon. Gentleman to the point that I made at the
outset of my remarks, in relation to those very vulnerable
children. I am more than happy to engage with him on this
particular point; I would equally be very willing to engage with
the charity that he references in relation to this specific
point, so that we can fully understand the circumstances and
fully understand the needs. The position as I understand it, as I
am advised currently by officials, is as per that which I set out
earlier, but we will most definitely pick up that engagement with
the right hon. Gentleman and with the charity.
(Ealing North) (Lab/Co-op)
Further to the Minister's comments earlier about visa application
centres, he may recall that I have been writing to him about the
parents of a constituent of mine, Maysara. He is a British
citizen and his parents had visas to visit the UK last autumn.
Those visas have now expired, and when I asked the Minister what
my constituent's parents should do, he said that they should
reapply by visiting the
“nearest accessible visa application centre”
to submit their biometrics, but as many Members here today and
indeed the Minister himself have acknowledged, there are no
functioning visa application centres in Gaza, so can the Minister
explain to my constituent what exactly his parents should do?
What I am not going to do is, again, casework on specific,
individual cases in the Chamber this evening. The point that I
was able to make about deferral may be something that the hon.
Gentleman wishes to explore with his constituents.
The Minister will be aware that there was recently a court
challenge and it was ruled that the Government's policy on
biometric deferrals was unlawful. The Home Office has been forced
to issue new, interim unsafe journey guidance for cases in which
someone is unable to travel safely to a visa application centre,
so I am just wondering when the Government are planning to
publish that new, revised unsafe journey guidance.
I am afraid that I have to say to the hon. Gentleman that, as he
will appreciate, given the position that he holds as a shadow
Minister, I am not in a position, with regard to ongoing
litigation, to be able to do that today.
Various points were raised about processing times. If they are
part of the Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Office cohort,
people are prioritised, and compassionate cases are expedited.
FCDO cases are currently processed within five working days from
VACs, and we continue to work intensively with FCDO colleagues to
support individuals to leave.
A number of points were raised about the wider safe and legal
routes landscape. I am very proud that as a country we have
provided over half a million people with sanctuary in the UK
since 2015. The point was specifically raised by the hon. and
learned Member for Edinburgh South West () about the commitments that
we made in relation to the cap as part of the Illegal Migration
Act. What I can say to her—I can be very specific about this—is
that the work is on track to take that forward, that I expect to
be able to publish the figure and that I expect to be able to lay
the statutory instrument to deliver that cap for 2025 ahead of
the summer recess. My message would be—
Just on that—
Mr (in the Chair)
Order. The Minister is perfectly entitled to take the
intervention, but I gently remind him that he must resume his
seat for to sum up the debate no later than 7.27 pm. I call
to continue.
My question was not about the cap. It was about when the
Government are going to introduce the safe and legal routes that
they promised during the passage of the Illegal Migration Act
2023.
The commitment, and what the law requires, is for the Government
to come forward with the figure around the cap, and that is
precisely what we will do. It will set out the places we are able
to provide for people to be able to come, working particularly in
partnership with the United Nations High Commissioner for
Refugees, through a safe and legal route to the United Kingdom in
2025. I think that is very welcome. If any areas have not
provided a figure for this year, I would encourage them to come
forward with offers of support in future years, because we want
to see generosity grow year on year to respond to international
crises around the world.
Ultimately, we need a long-term solution to this crisis. That
means the release of all hostages, Hamas's rule dismantled, their
ability to attack Israel removed, a new
Palestinian Government for the west bank and Gaza and a political
horizon towards a two-state solution. Israelis and Palestinians
should be able to live together, side by side, in peace and
security. That is our ultimate goal, and we will continue working
tirelessly to achieve it.7.26pm
When members of the public go on the website to start a petition,
it can be quite an intimidating experience, because the
thresholds are so high, at 10,000 to get a Government response
and 100,000 to secure a debate in Parliament. These petitioners
have met that relatively easily. That shows the strength of
feeling within all our constituencies about the situation.
To be very direct to the Minister, I think the petitioners will
be incredibly disappointed with his response. They were asking
how it can be that Palestinians have no safe routes to the UK
when they have family here. The Minister has said a lot of words,
but frankly I think members of the public watching will be
thinking that they made very little sense. In particular, his
comments about good availability of appointments in Cairo will
have left people shouting at the TV screens they are watching
this on. People cannot get to Cairo from Gaza. They are trapped.
That is why people have started a petition for a Palestinian
Gaza-specific scheme, similar to the one for Ukraine.
I would like to thank all colleagues for taking part in this
debate. It has been really comforting to witness cross-party
consensus and how we all spoke with one voice in support of this
scheme. I think it is incredibly disappointing that the
Government Minister did not follow the mood in the room. The
comments about orphaned children in particular will stay with me
for a very, very long time. Those children have absolutely nobody
in this world. They might have a distant relative—an aunt or an
uncle—here in the UK, but they do not qualify for any UK visa
scheme.
I thank my right hon. Friend the Member for Hayes and Harlington
() for the points he made
about the children who have been injured very severely, and I
urge the Minister to keep his word and follow up with him on that
issue. Although it is does not relate specifically to the visa
scheme, it is something the UK could do to try to foster more
positive relations with the Palestinians, who will be looking
right now at what this Government Minister has said and feeling
incredibly let down and disappointed.
I thank everyone for taking part in this debate, which has been
possibly the best-attended petitions debate I have had the
privilege of introducing. I know that three hours is a lot of
time to commit as a Member of Parliament, but I am sure that
those who have taken part did so because of the passion that we
all feel, as do the more than 100,000 people who signed this
petition.
Question put and agreed to.
Resolved,
That this House has considered e-petition 648577 relating to a
visa scheme for Palestinians.
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