Liz Twist (Blaydon) (Lab) I beg to move, That this House has
considered the lessons learned from the collapse of Football Index.
It is a pleasure to serve with you as Chair, Mrs Murray. This
debate is about the lessons to be learned from the collapse of
Football Index. I had a debate on Football Index in June 2022, but
I am here again because I was alarmed to read reports in The Times
and The Guardian just a few weeks ago about a new platform, KiX,
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(Blaydon) (Lab)
I beg to move,
That this House has considered the lessons learned from the
collapse of Football Index.
It is a pleasure to serve with you as Chair, Mrs Murray. This
debate is about the lessons to be learned from the collapse of
Football Index. I had a debate on Football Index in June 2022,
but I am here again because I was alarmed to read reports in The
Times and The Guardian just a few weeks ago about a new platform,
KiX, which uses Football Index as a proof of concept and involves
some of the people previously involved in Football Index. I do
not want my constituents to be caught up in a scheme that
replicates the problems of Football Index, so we need to learn
the lessons.
The collapse of the supposed betting platform Football Index was
mired in controversy, as the site proved to be incorrectly
regulated for the majority of its lifetime. Those regulatory
failures affected tens of thousands of people across the UK, many
of whom lost substantial amounts of money. I am sure most Members
in Westminster Hall today and across the House have received
emails from constituents who lost life savings, struggled with
their mental health and dealt with putting their lives back
together after that failure.
Let me give a quick recap. The Sheehan report, which the
Government commissioned, was damning in its verdict that there
were regulatory failures from both the Gambling Commission and
the Financial Conduct Authority in their work to protect
customers from Football Index. According to the report, the
failures go back to the beginnings of the platform. The Gambling
Commission was made aware of the “go to market” function back in
April 2015, but did not note that feature during the licensing
process. It did not consider other aspects of the platform's
similarity to a stock market at the licensing stage, and the
platform's terms and conditions were not subjected to detailed
scrutiny prior to 2019. The report states that at that point the
Gambling Commission became aware of the full nature of the
product, but it did not suspend the platform's licence for
another two years. That is crucial, because if the platform been
taken down in 2019, it could have saved some customers huge
amounts of money. The report also noted that, during that time,
the Financial Conduct Authority expressed inconsistent views
about whether the platform fell under its remit, and was driven
by resource prioritisation, rather than by its legal
responsibility to protect consumers.
Those failures cost victims dearly. Many lost their homes, their
life savings or their wedding funds, causing them huge amounts of
stress, anxiety and depression, not to mention financial
difficulties for some. My constituent Collin spent months unable
to work as a result of the stress. He told me:
“I feel a massive sense of guilt and anger that a huge amount of
my family savings has been stolen. That money could have been
used for my children's future, house improvements, holidays and
other investments.”
Many victims are reluctant to come forward due to the shame that
they feel after being misled in such a way. That has not been
helped by the language of the Government, who referred to support
for “problem gamblers” in their response to the dormant assets
consultation last year. To be clear, no one should have to feel
shame if they are struggling with gambling addition, but that
framing negates the fact that the product's promoters branded it
as an investment product.
None of the victims walked into a bookie's and put £3,000 on an
accumulator or a race. They were misled and instead believed
themselves to be investors. They were misled and instead believed
themselves to be investors taking risks, hedging funds and
building a portfolio—something that would be normal for those who
engage in the stock market. To suggest otherwise is to let the
platform and the regulators off the hook.
There are unanswered questions. Since my debate in June 2022,
there have been three different Prime Ministers, four Secretaries
of State for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport, and four
Ministers responsible for gambling, but as of yet, no one has
been able to make much progress on this vital issue. In that
time, I have heard countless more stories of the hardships
suffered by victims as a direct result of these regulatory
failings. Together, their financial losses amounted to as much as
£124 million. They are desperately waiting for action and dealing
with uncertainty. They fear that they may never see justice, and
that they may never be compensated.
I pay tribute to the journalists who have been fighting to keep
this issue in the public domain. Joey D'Urso at The Times, Ellie
Pitt at ITV and Greg Wood at The Guardian have all helped to tell
the story of the victims and have given them a voice. I encourage
the Minister and those present to attend the all-party
parliamentary group hearing on 30 April, so that they too can
hear at first hand from those affected.
It is important that we keep the focus on this because so many
questions remain. Although the Sheehan report was fundamental to
exposing some of the regulatory failures, the text itself
references the significant time constraints under which it was
produced and the fact that it therefore could not take in the
full amount of evidence that has since come to light. Some of the
victims have lost everything, and they deserve to have their
voices heard.
Having secured a meeting with the Minister back in 2022, the
Football Index group has continued to gather and develop evidence
that strengthens its case. However, I have met the group, and the
Government have not accepted a submission from it. I am grateful
to the current Minister for meeting representatives of the group,
but after three long years, they deserve more—they deserve
action.
There are ongoing concerns related to what the regulators knew
and when, and whether there were additional opportunities to
prevent the eventual outcome that were missed. It is my
understanding that the current Minister was sufficiently
concerned by what he heard to consider an independent review of
the evidence by someone external to the Department and the
Gambling Commission. No doubt the Minister will tell us himself
exactly what he has been doing, but the action group are still
waiting for progress on this issue. If we are to learn lessons
from the collapse of Football Index, there must be proper,
independent scrutiny of all the available evidence. I hope that
the Minister will commit to that during this debate.
Turning to novel products, a process of examining what went wrong
with Football Index is vital, so that we can protect people from
such harm in the future. Unfortunately, recent developments have
made this matter all the more urgent. As I said at the start of
this debate, in a recent article in The Times it was revealed
that the co-founder of the Football Index platform is working
with others to create a new trading platform, citing Football
Index as proof of concept. This is deeply worrying. I can only
imagine the frustration and anger that victims must feel upon
hearing this news; they will be concerned that others might be
let down in the way that they were.
The new platform, KiX, will be a football cryptocurrency trading
project that makes use of non-fungible tokens and cryptocurrency.
Ministers have previously said that the Gambling Commission has
strengthened its approach to novel products, and I understand
that the commission is currently reviewing elements of the KiX
product. However, the commission has also said that the product
may lie outside the scope of regulation, given the involvement of
NFTs and crypto.
On 23 April, the Government set out plans to overhaul gambling
and admitted that Football Index blurred the boundaries between
gambling and investing. If Football Index blurred the lines, KiX
is seemingly crossing over them altogether to create a similar
product in an unregulated market. Having seen the impact on
Football Index victims, how could we possibly permit another
product that preys on football fans by persuading them to part
with hard-earned income and invest in their knowledge of
football?
Mr (East Londonderry)
(DUP)
I thank the hon. Member for giving way and congratulate her on
securing the debate. She talked about susceptible fans sometimes
being preyed on when it comes to gambling. Does she agree that
one of the big emerging problems in the past few years has been
the virtual epidemic of gambling companies sponsoring almost
every single Premier League team, to the extent that young people
think of and see their heroes as being part of the gambling
industry, which is compounding the problems that she is rightly
analysing today?
I thank the hon. Member for his intervention. Of course, we could
have a whole different debate on the influence of the gambling
industry on football—indeed, I am sure that in future months we
will have such a debate. But today that link between gambling and
clubs and their players, with or without their consent, is being
used to attract people to gamble money.
As I was saying, I fear that the product that I am talking about
today—KiX—is dangerous and has the potential to bring misery to
more people. I therefore urge the Minister to do everything he
can to ensure that this platform does not launch without the
utmost regulations being in place. To put it simply, that is the
very least that the victims of Football Index deserve and we do
not want to see more victims being created through new
platforms.
I also bring to the Minister's attention another
company—StocksFC. I am told that it has been operating in the
crypto space for about a year. Alarmingly, a quick glance at its
website and at the Twitter account of its head of marketing shows
the dangers of this type of platform. It is clearly masquerading
as a stock market and is manipulative in its language, suggesting
to people that they are “investing” and sharing the totals of
profits made on their supposed investment.
I will add that despite this platform allegedly being a
crypto-based platform, there are no entries about it on the
blockchain and users in the UK can deposit money straight into
its system from their debit cards. I am sure that the Minister
will agree that that is deeply concerning and a danger to
consumers. Does he know whether the Gambling Commission is aware
of this operator and if so, what discussions has he had with the
commission to ensure that consumers are being sufficiently
protected?
Many victims of the original Football Index collapse are
vulnerable and eager to recoup their losses through any means,
and I fear that new platforms could prey on their vulnerability.
I hope that the Minister will raise these concerns with the
Financial Conduct Authority, and that the FCA and the Gambling
Commission will work in partnership to ensure that nobody is left
victim to an unregulated football stock exchange ever again,
consulting with the Football Index action group to learn from the
real-life examples that it can provide.
The evidence regarding the regulatory failures that led to the
collapse of Football Index is highly compelling. It serves as a
reminder that we cannot let anything like that collapse happen
again. Meanwhile, victims have long-standing grievances that are
yet to be resolved.
People from across the country will now be willing the Government
to respond to the new platform of KiX in a serious manner and to
review, in full, the evidence that the Football Index action
group has sourced and put together. I hope that the Minister will
listen to calls from the victims, because that is quite simply
the least that they deserve.
Finally, I would welcome any update that the Minister can provide
on this subject. At the heart of this scandal is injustice. We
need to develop a plan that seeks to compensate victims of the
Football Index collapse effectively while working to ensure that
any future football platforms, such as KiX, cannot be launched
without learning considerably from the lessons of the Football
Index scandal.
Mrs (in the Chair)
I remind Members that they should bob if they wish to be called
in the debate.
2.44pm
(Ellesmere Port and Neston)
(Lab)
It is a pleasure to see you in the Chair this afternoon, Mrs
Murray. I thank my hon. Friend the Member for Blaydon () for securing the debate and for
the work she has done over a number of years to highlight this
issue, as well as other existing or future problems that need to
be tackled.
We know that Football Index has been described as
“the biggest scandal in British gambling history”,
with thousands of customers suffering cumulative losses of up to
£134 million. It is a scandal and a failure. I am sorry to say
that we are all getting rather too used to saying in this place
that, once again, people have been let down. Whether it the
sub-postmasters, the Women Against State Pension Inequality
Campaign, the leasehold scandal, infected blood, the loan charge,
mortgage prisoners, Equitable Life or the myriad other investment
scandals that have seen people's life savings stolen, too often
in this place we end up saying that what happened was totally
wrong and should not be allowed to happen again. But yet again
that is where we find ourselves today.
It is little wonder that public faith in our elected
representatives continues to erode when Parliament seems to be
incapable of learning from past mistakes. Whether it is
regulatory failures, loopholes or bad actors, this place seems
unable to stop them. Consumer protection and other basic
safeguards for our citizens seem to have gone missing in action.
We are failing in our basic duties; light-touch regulation has
clearly had its day. We know the terrible stories of those
affected by Football Index—losses into seven figures, individuals
driven to the brink of suicide, marriages collapsed, families
torn apart and life savings vanished—and those impacts have been
part of all the other scandals I mentioned. Too many people in
this country have suffered grave injustices that we seem
incapable of putting right.
Football Index has been described as a Ponzi scheme. As we have
heard, its executives were warned soon after its launch—in fact,
as early as 2016—that their so-called football stock market would
prove unsustainable. All the warnings came some five years before
its eventual collapse, leaving serious questions about how
effective regulation was. According to newspaper reports, the
Gambling Commission was warned in January 2020 that Football
Index was
“an exceptionally dangerous pyramid scheme under the guise of a
football stock market”.
We all know that that warning proved to be correct.
Perhaps it was the unusual nature of the product that meant it
carried on without effective intervention. However, I have looked
at Trustpilot reviews for many of the major online gambling
companies, and there are a litany of tales about frozen accounts,
withheld funds and appalling customer service. It seems that even
the more straightforward gambling propositions are able to get
away with far too much, so it should be little surprise when an
unusual scheme, which was unsustainable by design, also escapes
attention.
The FCA took its time to get involved, and was also indecisive,
changing its view twice as to whether Football Index fell within
its regulatory remit. On two separate occasions, in September
2019 and September 2020, when it did indicate that Football Index
fell within its remit, the FCA did not follow up with adequate
action, and the product continued to be unregulated.
Those who used Football index talked about it being advertised as
an investment product, with only a very small note squirrelled
away on its website saying that it was a betting scheme, which is
what it really was. FCA regulation allows for redress for losses
through the Financial Services Compensation Scheme, but because
Football Index was considered gambling—although not overtly
advertised as such—the failure to regulate it meant that the
losses were allowed to continue to stack up.
The Gambling Commission has now updated its framework on how it
assesses risks, so that the novelty of the product is fully
considered. Licences will not normally be issued if the product's
name contains language associated with financial products. The
FCA now has, I understand, an executive director to oversee its
relationship with the Gambling Commission where products appear
to cross boundaries. However, despite those actions, the reality
is that nobody has been held to account.
Even those originally involved in the company have got away with
it. The Insolvency Service, which I wrote to, decided there was
insufficient evidence to justify directors disqualification
proceedings. The people who created Football Index in the first
place are allowed to carry on with impunity. That is wrong,
because they knew it was unsustainable and they were warned about
that from the very start, but they carried on anyway.
That leads us on to KiX, which my hon. Friend the Member for
Blaydon mentioned. The KiX website says:
“Digital Athlete Tokens (DATs)…represent the on-pitch performance
of individual footballers…and are deployed as smart contracts on
the blockchain”.
It says that the owner of a digital athlete token becomes
“eligible for twice weekly winnings.”
I do not really know what that means, but it has a familiar ring
to it—as we have heard, some of the people behind Football Index
are part of KiX. That quote about digital athlete tokens means it
is as clear as mud to me whether this should be regulated by the
FCA or the Gambling Commission—perhaps it is neither. KiX is
apparently a “decentralised autonomous organisation” and
apparently has a
“decentralised, egalitarian and democratised blockchain
ethos.”
If that word salad is not enough to put you off investing, I hope
that someone, somewhere, who actually understands what that means
is going to take responsibility for regulating this.
We have let people down, and these products need proper
regulating and policing. We really do not want to end up here
again in another few years, bemoaning our lack of action. I have
had too many constituents ripped off by one investment scheme or
another, and the lack of accountability, justice and—I am sorry
to say—interest from those whose job it is to ensure that there
is justice says to me that we are letting people down on a
systemic basis. We have to do much better than we are at the
moment.
2.51pm
(Worsley and Eccles South)
(Lab)
It is a pleasure to speak in the debate with you in the Chair,
Mrs Murray. I congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for Blaydon
() on leading the debate and on
her excellent work on this issue. I have two constituents who
were affected by the collapse of Football Index in 2021. One told
me he had lost £20,000 as a result. He said:
“I am a father and soon-to-be husband whose family has been
swindled by the stress, guilt and shame which this has brought me
in such an important part of mine and my family's life. This has
put me in some very dark places and I have had thoughts and
stress like I've never experienced before.”
Failings by a number of organisations led to this impact on
customers, which was highlighted in the Government's independent
report into the regulation of Football Index, led by Malcolm
Sheehan KC. First, the report found that BetIndex Ltd, which
traded as Football Index, did not properly notify the Gambling
Commission of the nature of its product in its licence
application, and nor did it inform the commission of changes to
its product as it should have done.
Secondly, the report found that the Gambling Commission could
have responded better, including through better scrutiny of the
product offered by BetIndex in 2015, better monitoring of the
development of the product, and quicker decision making once it
identified in 2019 that BetIndex appeared to be operating outside
the scope of its licence. Indeed, as my hon. Friend the Member
for Blaydon said earlier, if the platform had been taken down in
2019, that would have saved money being lost by a number of the
victims. Thirdly, the report identified areas of improvement for
the Financial Conduct Authority, including its speed of response
to requests from the Gambling Commission and the consistency of
messaging on its regulatory responsibilities.
It is welcome that the Government have committed to implementing
the review's recommendations and that, in September 2021, the
Gambling Commission and the Financial Conduct Authority agreed an
amended memorandum of understanding, including on response
timetables and the process for escalation of unresolved issues.
However, I understand that people such as my constituents, and so
many others, still feel very upset and angry at the loss of
capital as a result of the collapse of Football Index.
Some believe that there were further failings by the regulatory
bodies that were not identified in that independent review. In
particular, people feel misled about the nature of the product
they were using. One constituent told me about
“the magnitude of the deception that took place by the Football
Index, which positioned and promoted itself as a safe investment
with ‘guaranteed yields'.”
They also said:
“This attracted a significant number of users who were wholly
misled as to the nature of the Football Index product and the
degree of safeguards pertaining to its regulation.”
There is a need to improve financial literacy to help counteract
financial products that are purposely misleading and confusing,
and aimed at exploiting customers for greater profit. Unless
lessons are learned from the collapse of Football Index, there
exists a risk that a similar situation could emerge through new
platforms.
Like my hon. Friend the Member for Blaydon and others present, I
am particularly concerned by reports about the new trading
platform KiX, which is using Football Index as a proof of
concept. The Times has reported that KiX is being advised by the
co-founder and chief executive of Football Index, Adam Cole. As
we have heard, users of KiX will be able to trade footballers
using non-fungible tokens, but because KiX is a decentralised,
autonomous organisation underpinned by the blockchain technology
used by cryptocurrencies, it is not currently regulated. Its
website says that KiX is beginning with football but may expand
into other sports if successful. Campaigner David Hammel has
called the development of KiX
“a real kick in the teeth”
for all those affected by the collapse of Football Index. I would
be interested to hear from the Minister whether the Government
have had discussions with regulators about how to protect people
from the risks of this latest scheme.
Returning to the issues caused by the collapse of Football Index,
it is important that the Government fulfil their intention in the
gambling White Paper to protect vulnerable people from gambling
harms and financial detriment. This situation should never have
been allowed to occur and it must never be repeated, and I look
forward to the Minister reassuring us on behalf of our
constituents that it will not be.
2.55pm
(Strangford) (DUP)
I congratulate the hon. Member for Blaydon () on bringing the debate forward.
She will recall leading a debate on a similar subject here a
couple of years ago, and I was very fortunate and pleased to
support her, just as I regularly support other Members in
Westminster Hall, which is always a pleasure, by the way, because
the issues are really important. The hon. Lady is right about
this issue: it is important—it is important because some of my
constituents have found themselves in this terrible malaise,
having lost money, so it is good to return to it.
If the Minister does not mind me saying, I am very pleased to see
him in his place, as he always tries to answer constructively the
questions and queries we pose to him. I was remarking to him
earlier that he performed really well in the debate on the
Football Governance Bill last night in the main Chamber, where
his final comment referenced, “They think it's all over! It is
now!” I am old enough to remember that saying in 1966. I know
that the shadow Minister, the hon. Member for Barnsley East
(), is far too young to
remember that, but a whole lot of others here are not—I better be
careful not to say too much now, or I will be reprimanded.
I took part in the last debate on the impact that Football Index
has had on all our constituents, including mine—I will not
mention their names, but I will refer to them. It is really good
to be back here to discuss what lessons we have learned and what
has changed. That was the question posed by the hon. Member for
Blaydon: what has changed? Hopefully, the Minister can reassure
us in his response.
The collapse of Football Index was detrimental to so many people,
and some were undoubtedly financially ruined—I know someone who
sadly was, although I am not able to put their name on record,
but I have seen the detrimental effects. The situation has also
highlighted the importance of being gambling aware. It is
important that we get it right this time and the next time round.
I was hoping that the hon. Member for Swansea East () would be here, because she
has been such a stalwart at the forefront of gambling issues. I
admire her greatly, and she has taken up the subject in this
House with real enthusiasm in order to make changes.
What is our football knowledge really worth? In football's first
stock market, people had fantastic prospects of making money
based on how well they knew football. I know a whole lot about
Leicester City, having been a loyal supporter since 1969, when I
was a wee boy at school. That was not yesterday, by the way—it
ages me greatly when people do the figures. The point I am making
is that, although I do not know all about football, I love it.
Most people here in this debate probably love football, but they
may not know all the ins and outs of the subject matter before
them.
The financial losses from this collapse have been absolutely
devastating. I have read some absolute horror stories from people
in my constituency and further afield. Some have lost hundreds of
thousands of pounds that were invested in open bets on football
players and their performance. It is also my understanding that
the company folded with £124.5 million in remaining open
bets—wow! Isn't that truly extortionate? It shows the magnitude
of what we have before us today and why this debate is so
important.
Some 67% of people in Northern Ireland have been said to gamble,
and they cover a range of ages, sports and other means. My hon.
Friend the Member for East Londonderry (Mr Campbell) referred to
all the other sports and the implications for them as well.
Individuals must be aware of their gambling habits and the
potential dangers that come along with gambling. Reports have
suggested necessary recommendations for any similar scheme in
future.
One point that we must get right is ensuring that any gambling
company offering long-term bets will be able to cover payments to
customers. That is to be covered by the Government's forthcoming
gambling White Paper. I look forward to hearing what the Minister
has to say about the White Paper and how it will address some of
the issues we have before us today. If it does not—with respect,
Minister—we will need to see how it can be strengthened and
enforced.
Others will make contributions. I am not sure whether the hon.
Member for Inverclyde () is going to speak, but he
has great knowledge of this subject. I hope he will intervene at
some stage to give us some of his wisdom on the matter. I mean
that honestly because he has a particular grasp of the
situation.
(Inverclyde) (SNP)
The issue is that when it comes to gambling products, we
understand that there are rules and regulations in place. They
are not to my liking, but they are there. This scheme and the
successor schemes are designed to work in the grey areas—the dark
shadows—of gambling. The Financial Conduct Authority did not even
know whether it was responsible for them.
Hopefully, down the line somebody will be able to hold these
companies to account. Their will is not to create an exciting
thing for football fans to get more involved with and enjoy a
game of football; their will is to take money out of people's
pockets. We know plenty of gambling products that are already
doing that. I am not sure there is much in the White Paper at all
that touches on FI. There has to be something that ensures the
regulations are clear and understandable. It must also stop KiX:
if KiX is up and running, plenty of other organisations behind it
will be waiting to do exactly the same thing, and all they will
do is extract money from punters' pockets.
I thank the hon. Gentleman for that intervention. He has posed a
few questions that are pertinent to the debate. I look forward to
the contributions from the SNP spokesperson, the hon. Member for
North Ayrshire and Arran (), and the shadow Minister,
the hon. Member for Barnsley East (), and the questions they
will pose in turn to the Minister.
We need to see a sea change that does away with the grey areas
that the hon. Member for Inverclyde referred to and the
uncertainty, where people can get sucked into the process.
Ensuring that customers can get their money back is of major
importance. Early day motion 697 was tabled on 25 November 2021.
I am pretty sure the hon. Member for Blaydon was instrumental in
tabling the EDM and ensuring that others signed it. I signed the
EDM to show support and to urge the Government to do more to
ensure that those owed money receive a full reimbursement.
As I have stated before, gambling is a personal choice. I am not
here to tell anybody what they should or should not do; I will
always try to give people choice if I can. At the same time,
sometimes Government have to encourage people to be more aware of
what the choices are. As the hon. Member for Inverclyde said,
there are clearly occasions when that does not happen, and that
is why it is important to have a system in place. While gambling
is a personal choice, we hope that those choosing to do so are
educated about the potential risks. The losses can be huge. I
read one story—I thought about it long and hard—about a young
man, probably in his early 20s, who lost £165,000: my goodness!
He lost what he did not have. He found himself in all sorts of
problems, and he stated that it completely turned his life upside
down. How could it not, given that he lost that amount of money
at an early stage in life?
Many have openly referred to the shame they feel and how such
things have affected how they look at gambling. There is
absolutely no doubt that the Financial Conduct Authority should
have regulated Football Index, and there are still questions to
be answered. I know this may not be the Minister's
responsibility, but I would really like to know what discussions
have taken place with the Financial Conduct Authority and what it
is doing to regulate the situation. There are still questions to
be answered.
Although it is argued that FI was seen as an investment, not
gambling, its business model still relied on money from
constituents and it was undoubtedly fundamentally flawed, as some
of my constituents are able to confirm. Many people state that
they feel let down by the regulators and that more should have
been done to ensure the system was working correctly.
I will conclude because I am conscious that others want to speak.
I look forward to hearing from the two shadow spokespeople, the
hon. Members for Barnsley East and for North Ayrshire and Arran,
and the Minister. Consumer protection must be at the heart of the
lessons learned. The FCA's consistent view has been that all the
products fell within its regulatory perimeter up until the
collapse in March '21. Evidentially, that is no longer the case,
and therefore we need a legislative change and reassurance.
Legislatively, it is always better to put these things in black
and white. I hope action is taken to support those who suffered
losses as a result of the collapse. I urge the Minister and our
Government to ensure that victims do not wait years for
reimbursement. That would be unfair, and we have a chance today
to urge the Minister to grasp that. I commend the hon. Member for
Blaydon for bringing forward this issue; there is no one in the
Chamber who does not think she has done exceptionally
well.3.06pm
(Sheffield, Brightside and
Hillsborough) (Lab)
It is a pleasure to serve under your chairpersonship, Mrs Murray.
I congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for Blaydon () on securing this debate on such
an important issue, which has caused a great deal of suffering
for thousands of people.
Several years ago, I met a group of parents outside Hillsborough
stadium whose loved ones had tragically taken their own lives
after struggling with gambling addiction. The victims were mainly
in their 20s and 30s. The parents were taking part in the Big
Step, and were walking between five Yorkshire football grounds to
call for an end to gambling advertising and sponsorship in
football. Thirty-five clubs across the UK have signed the Big
Step's pledge to eliminate gambling advertisements in football,
and Premier League teams have agreed not to take front-of-shirt
sponsorship deals from gambling firms from 2026. However, that
leaves us in the nonsensical situation whereby we recognise the
dangers posed by gambling sponsorships but are happy to relegate
them to the sleeves of football kits and advertising hoardings
around stadiums, despite research showing that only 5% of
gambling logos showed during live Premier League football matches
would be affected by the front-of-shirt ban—in my opinion, that
is 5% too many.
We need to do far more to combat the blight of gambling
sponsorship in sport. I remain disappointed that the Government's
White Paper on gambling reform, which required the introduction
of a cross-sport gambling sponsorship code of conduct, has been
continually delayed. Will the Minister tell us when that code of
conduct will be introduced? Will he investigate KiX, which is now
operating instead of FI?
Sadly, any changes to legislation on football sponsorship are too
late for the users of Football Index. Prior to its collapse,
Football Index sponsored the shirts of three English Football
League teams. Those sponsorship deals helped to convey an aura of
trust and respectability that may not otherwise have existed,
furthering the dupe that it was an investment platform. Football
Index was more than happy to play into that misconception.
Internal company documents reveal that Neil Kelly, the director
of BetIndex—the Jersey-based company that ran Football
Index—said:
“the Football Index platform functions somewhat similarly to a
stock market, hence for marketing purposes it is sometimes
referred to as the football stock market and when the Company
uses this term, it is deliberately misspelled as the football
‘stockmarket'.”
As one of the previous speakers said, that is working in the dark
shadows of the law. It is completely unacceptable, and I really
hope that the Minister will put it right. The deliberate
misspelling may have reassured directors that they were not
operating a stock market, but that distinction was less than
apparent to their customers. The Guardian reported:
“The only hint on its website that it was actually a betting site
was an easy-to-miss strapline, which was added several years into
its existence at the insistence of the Advertising Standards
Authority.”
The authority had previously complained that the language used by
Football Index was
“synonymous with the language used to describe conventional stock
markets and investment products.”
The Gambling Commission has been made aware of the concerns,
having been warned in January 2020 that tens of thousands of
users were being
“misled into believing they are investing rather than gambling,
with little or no consideration that all of their money is at
risk”,
and that the platform was little more than an “exceptionally
dangerous pyramid scheme” in a formal submission by industry
experts. However, the platform's misleading nature meant that
there was a reluctance from both the Gambling Commission and the
FCA to take ultimate responsibility for regulating the product,
to the detriment of the thousands of Football Index's
victims.
Let us not forget that consumers have rights, including a right
to redress if their product is mis-sold. Customers in a regulated
industry such as gambling have the right to expect that the
regulations will be adequate, appropriate and diligent. The users
of Football Index have been wronged. The regulatory failings have
cost thousands of people dearly, and they deserve compensation
for their losses. However, beyond that, we need real systematic
change. Football is watched by millions of young people every
week, yet they are still subjected to constant gambling
advertisements. I fear that without urgent reform, more consumers
will fall prey to similar products that intentionally blur the
lines between gambling and investing. Will the Minister commit to
helping ensure that the gambling sponsorship code of conduct is
introduced as soon as possible?
3.11pm
(North Ayrshire and Arran)
(SNP)
I am pleased to participate in this debate. Like others who have
spoken before me, I congratulate the hon. Member for Blaydon
() on bringing it forward. It is
important that we learn lessons and remember the mistakes made
during the collapse of the online gambling product, Football
Index. I also pay tribute to my hon. Friend the Member for
Inverclyde (), who has done a huge amount
of work on this issue and in the wider gambling context
generally.
I remember well when Football Index collapsed in 2021. I remember
a number of constituents contacting me in despair, some having
lost significant sums of money in what they believed was an
investment because it had been marketed as such. It was
deliberately marketed to look like a football stock market where
customers could invest in players, collect dividends based on
performance and sell their shares in a player at a profit if they
did well. However, when operations were suspended, customers lost
more than £90 million in open bets, or in other words,
investments in players.
What became clear is that Football Index was akin to a pyramid
scheme, operating unsustainably until its collapse by paying
customers dividends using new customers' investments. That
collapse represents the biggest collapse of a gambling product in
the UK. However, relatively speaking, it has not attracted the
attention that it ought to have done. We know that the Gambling
Commission had been warned some 14 months prior to the collapse
that the platform was an
“exceptionally dangerous pyramid scheme under the guise of a
‘football stock market'”.
Its business model was fundamentally flawed and spiralled out of
control.
As we have heard, the issue is that many of those using the
platform were not fully cognisant of the fact that they were
gambling, participating in a pyramid scheme dressed up as
something quite different. If somebody does not know that they
are gambling, they surely cannot be fully aware of the risk to
which their money is exposed. The reality is that Football
Index's deliberate imitation of an investment product led to
“unparalleled levels of irresponsible gambling”
from thousands of users who were misled into believing that they
were not gambling but investing, and obviously had no idea of the
risks to which they were exposed. There is unanimous agreement in
the Chamber today, and I am sure that the Minister will be
listening to that carefully.
All the information was contained in a report to the Gambling
Commission, which did nothing and rejected the warnings, as it
did not consider that there was enough evidence to show that the
undertaking was fraudulent. It then transpired that the Gambling
Commission was not properly notified of the nature of the product
in its licence application, nor was the regulator informed of
changes to the product after its launch as required. There has
clearly been an absence of scrutiny and, one might say, of
curiosity in some quarters, given the concerns raised about the
platform. Football Index was never regulated by the Financial
Conduct Authority, but areas for improvement for that body have
been identified, including the speed of response to requests from
the Gambling Commission and consistency of messaging on
regulatory responsibilities.
For the constituents who contacted me about the issue—I am sure
that it is the same for other Members' constituents—the financial
losses have been significant. For some, they have been
life-changing, and have put strains on family relationships and
future plans. Still there has been no redress for those who were
told they were participating in an investment instead of a
gambling opportunity. Indeed, the only hint on Football Index's
website that it was a betting site was an easy-to-miss strapline,
which was added several years into its existence, and only at the
insistence of the Advertising Standards Authority.
This situation happened because of spectacular failures in
regulation, which allowed a gambling product to masquerade as a
financial service or investment platform, without the regulation
that that would suggest. Those who were fooled by Football
Index—and they were fooled—should not pay the price of this
failure of regulation. That only adds insult to serious injury. I
know that the Minister will say that gambling losses cannot be
made good by taxpayers' money, but I draw his and other Members'
attention to the words of David Hammel, who is one of the
spokespeople for the Football Index action group. He said:
“The regulators don't actually cost the taxpayer any money, they
are funded by licence fees and they also contribute to the
Treasury by way of fines and settlements. There is a net surplus
since…Football Index was first licensed in 2015, it's approaching
£1.3bn or £1.4bn that's gone into the public purse.”
Football Index action group wants a mere 10% of that sum to be
reassigned for use as redress. That would not directly involve
taxpayers' money.
I have one of those numbers going around in my head. It is said
that £90 million was lost. Well, it was not lost. It is there
somewhere. Someone has that money in a bank account somewhere; it
did not just disappear into the ether. We are trying to find
redress for people who have lost tens of thousands of pounds. If
we identify that money, surely there is a way. Even if it is in a
bank account in Jersey, there has to be a way of paying redress
to the people who lost it in the first place.
I thank my hon. Friend for that point, but I also urge the
Minister to look carefully at the suggestion of David Hammel from
the Football Index action group. I agree with Mr Hammel, and I
want the Minister to consider his proposal for how redress can be
managed for the victims of this scandal.
It almost goes without saying, but I will say it anyway, that
such a fundamental regulatory failure must not happen again, yet
Members have raised concerns about the co-founder of Football
Index being involved in a new trading platform, KiX, that has
striking—chilling, even—similarities to the one under discussion.
I hope that the Minister will use his role to ensure that
regulators keep a close watch on that new product. We must ensure
that the same mistakes are not repeated, and that it is clear to
all users whether a site is a gambling site or an investment
site. There should never be any dubiety that the customer has to
work through; it should be clear and front-facing.
I am sure the Minister will agree that this must not happen
again. I ask him to think carefully about the suggestion from Mr
Hammel about how we can recompense users of Football Index
without directly using taxpayers' money.
3.20pm
(Barnsley East) (Lab)
It is a pleasure to serve under your chairship, Mrs Murray. I
will begin by paying tribute to my hon. Friend the Member for
Blaydon () for securing this important
debate and for all her work on this important issue.
The collapse of Football Index three years ago was devastating
for many people up and down the country, as we have heard.
Football fans had been told that they could put their money and
confidence in players who they identified as rising stars, and
were promised that they would be paid dividends if they were
correct. It was advertised as the world's first football stock
market, which was misleading to users as they believed they would
be using the football knowledge they had gathered over years to
make money on the scheme, rather than participating in
gambling.
After administrators were called in, the collapse took an
estimated £90 million in customer funds. Victims have formed the
Football Index action group and I pay tribute to its work. It is
campaigning to ensure that the events that led to the loss of
that huge amount of money never happen again, which my hon.
Friend the Member for Ellesmere Port and Neston () spoke about so well. Some
users lost hundreds of thousands of pounds, as the hon. Member
for Strangford () highlighted.
Following the collapse, the Gambling Commission decided to
suspend Football Index owner BetIndex's operating licence in
2021. The Government then commissioned a review by Malcolm
Sheehan KC of the events surrounding the establishment and
subsequent collapse of Football Index, with the intention of
learning lessons from the mistakes made. His report concluded
that BetIndex failed to properly inform the Gambling Commission
of the nature of the product in its licence application and did
not inform the regulator of changes to the product after its
launch as it was required to.
The Football Index action group includes that among its
criticisms of the model, arguing that everything about the index
sought to brand it as an investment product rather than a betting
site, as my hon. Friend the Member for Sheffield, Brightside and
Hillsborough () outlined. Indeed, one of the
index's two main features, the “go-to-market” feature, was not
communicated to the Gambling Commission as part of the original
application, flouting the commission's expectation of openness
and transparency during the process.
The Government report also found that there was potential to
improve the Gambling Commission's handling of the incident. In
the first instance, reports that the Gambling Commission was made
aware of the issues with Football Index in 2019, two years before
the collapse of the product, are extremely worrying. Questions
remain about why the commission failed to act sooner, thereby
potentially mitigating some of the effects of the collapse. The
report recommended a number of steps for the commission to take,
including greater scrutiny of new gambling-related products
intending to come to market, consideration of the effect of
language used on consumer understanding of gambling products, and
more prompt decision making and action. The report also suggested
that the Financial Conduct Authority could have done much more to
help, and recommended improvement of regulatory co-operation
between the commission and the FCA.
It is welcome that the Government have committed to implementing
the recommendation of the Sheehan review in full, as my hon.
Friend the Member for Worsley and Eccles South () said. People feel that they
have been let down by both Football Index and the regulator, and
argue that they should never have been put in this position
without intervention to prevent cash losses. They remain angry
and the Government must learn from the incident to ensure that
others do not find their capital at risk in the same way.
In an age when advances in technology have allowed the betting
and gaming industry to develop rapidly, it is right that we work
with the industry to ensure that consumers are protected from
potentially harmful schemes while allowing those who gamble
responsibly to continue to do so.
(Leeds North West)
(Lab/Co-op)
My hon. Friend is presenting an excellent summary of the failures
of Football Index. Like others, I have constituents who lost
large sums of money. I am concerned to hear that a new platform
called KiX—a football cryptocurrency trading platform modelled on
Football Index—has been set up with the involvement of Adam Cole,
one of the founders of Football Index. Should the Government not
ensure that the FCA and the Gambling Commission both look into
KiX at this early stage and that the appropriate regulatory
activity happens this time so we do not see a repeat of Football
Index?
I thank my hon. Friend for his intervention and I will come on to
that point in just a moment.
The rapid growth in technology and our growing awareness of the
impact of gambling harms mean that changes to our gambling
regulation are now long overdue. It is important that we revise
our gambling legislation to avoid incidents such as the collapse
of Football Index in the future. Those who flout the rules of the
regulator should be punished for their actions so that customers
can be sure that those operating in the market are
legitimate.
That has sadly not been the case, however, as reports emerged
this month that the co-founder of Football Index, Adam Cole, is
now helping to launch a product similar to the collapsed
platform. That will be released as the new football
cryptocurrency trading project KiX, as has been mentioned. The
Football Index action group spokesperson, David Hammel, described
that as
“a real kick in the teeth”
for victims. I would like to raise those concerns with the
Minister and ask him why Adam Cole has been allowed to be an
integral part of a new platform that mirrors Football Index.
We have heard about the devastating effect that losing money
through Football Index has had on the mental health and lives of
users. It is clear that more must be done to ensure that
vulnerable people and families are protected. The Labour party
welcomes the measures outlined in the gambling White Paper with
the intention of protecting vulnerable people from gambling harms
and financial detriment.
Examples like the collapse of the Football Index outline the
serious threat that not having the right legislative and
regulatory protections in place can cause to consumers. I hope
the Minister will listen to the concerns of the Football Index
action group, and that he can tell us what the Government have
been doing to ensure that this can never happen again and how
they can learn from past mistakes.
3.26pm
The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Culture, Media and
Sport ()
It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mrs Murray. I
thank the hon. Member for Blaydon () for tabling this debate. I know
she also secured a debate in 2022 on the impacts of the Football
Index collapse. I would like to acknowledge the contribution she
has made to ensuring that these events receive the attention that
they deserve. She is an admirable representative of those in her
constituency and others who have been affected. The Government
appreciate, and I certainly do, the impact these events have had
on them and many others. I personally offer my sympathies to all
of those affected financially by the collapse of Football
Index.
I thank all hon. Members for their contributions today. I also
want to say thank you to David Hammel for his campaigning work on
behalf of people who have lost money as a result of these events.
I have met Mr Hammel and know that he has engaged administrators,
regulators and politicians on behalf of those affected.
Today's debate has been valuable and I commend all those who have
contributed for their thoughtful comments. It has been important
for me personally to hear the perspective shared this afternoon
on this important topic. I want to be clear that I and the
Government recognise the serious consequences that the collapse
of Football Index has had on consumers. As I said, I sympathise
with all those affected. It is important that we ensure that a
similar scenario cannot happen again.
I will not repeat the background to these events, as that has
been well covered by colleagues. I want to focus on the action
being taken following the independent review of the regulation of
Football Index, led by Malcolm Sheehan KC. I thank him for that
work. His report examined the regulatory circumstances around the
granting of a licence to BetIndex, its subsequent suspension and
the company's ultimate financial failure. Importantly, it
identified areas, as others have said, where the Gambling
Commission could have been more effective in responding to the
challenges posed by this novel product. It also highlighted where
the FCA could have co-operated more effectively with the
commission.
The report recommended that the Gambling Commission should
enhance its scrutiny of novel products; such products are less
likely to fit neatly into existing regulatory frameworks, and
there is greater risk that they are poorly understood by
customers, as colleagues have mentioned. It recommended closer
examination of the language typically associated with investments
and financial markets, which can obscure the fact that a product
is a gambling rather than a financial product. It outlined the
need for more prompt decision making, quicker internal escalation
and greater scrutiny of any differences between described and
actual features of products. Finally, the report recommended that
the commission consider whether operators should be required to
demonstrate additional levels of liquidity in the case of
longer-term tradeable bets like those offered by Football
Index.
Although Football Index was never regulated by the Financial
Conduct Authority, Mr Sheehan's report recommended that the FCA
should also seek to achieve quicker and more consistent decision
making on regulatory responsibility issues. The report concluded
that the FCA could have been faster to come to decisions in the
Football Index case and to communicate those to the Gambling
Commission.
The Gambling Commission and the FCA agreed a formal memorandum of
understanding in June 2021. The Sheehan report described that as
an appropriate and proactive step. However, it also made
recommendations about how the memorandum could be strengthened.
It recommended that the new memorandum should include an agreed
mechanism for resolving disputes over regulatory responsibility;
mechanisms for ensuring that disputes are identified, discussed
and escalated where necessary; and provisions for the written
recording of meeting outcomes.
It is vital, as the title of the debate points out, that we learn
lessons from the Football Index case to ensure that a similar
situation does not take place again. I am pleased that all the
recommendations of the report for the commission and the FCA have
been implemented in full.
The Gambling Commission has taken various actions to achieve
that. It consulted on and updated its statement of principles for
licensing and regulation in June 2022. It has updated how it
assesses risk so that novel products are properly considered. It
now undertakes systematic reviews of novel products offered by
existing licensees. It has also increased the resources available
to ensure that licensees disclose notifiable changes to products.
The commission has also changed its approach to licensing
products where long-term bets might appear more like financial
products. It has made it clear in its statement of principles
that it will not normally grant a licence to products that use
language usually associated with investments or financial
products.
Various colleagues raised issues around advertising, and the hon.
Member for Worsley and Eccles South () asked about the gambling
White Paper. We are not introducing one single Bill because we
want to ensure that we get as many of the changes done as quickly
as possible. We are making good progress. I have consistently
committed to trying to get everything done by the summer. Some of
these things will be ready for statutory instruments soon, but
some are what the Gambling Commission will implement. By
splitting it up, rather than having one big Bill that might take
a long time to get through this place, we are proceeding at pace
to bring about the reforms.
The FCA has also implemented all the recommendations from the
report. Importantly, it has taken steps to improve the speed and
consistency of its decision making, including nominating an
executive director to oversee the relationship with the Gambling
Commission.
An updated memorandum of understanding addressing all the
review's recommendations was agreed between the commission and
the FCA in November 2022. The agreement has established a process
and timeline for co-operation between the two authorities and a
process for escalation, and created a relationship owner and
primary contact in each authority to oversee the operation of the
memorandum. It also requires a quarterly minuted meeting between
the two authorities to ensure that the memorandum operates as it
should. The most recent meeting took place yesterday.
There are also now ad hoc meetings between the chief executive
officers of the two authorities, which provide an avenue for
escalation of regulatory matters if required. I am grateful to
the Gambling Commission and the FCA for their work to ensure that
this important report is acted on.
I mentioned David Hammel, and I admire the work of campaign
groups such as the Football Index action group and the way that
it has conducted itself. I met him last year and we have had
follow-up correspondence. I am taking seriously the extra
evidence that Mr Hammel has submitted in relation to the Sheehan
review, and I am considering, as the hon. Member for Blaydon
mentioned, whether it would be appropriate and feasible for Mr
Hammel's evidence to be scrutinised by someone external to the
Department.
A lot of Members mentioned the new product, KiX, which has
described itself as a football cryptocurrency trading project and
bears similarities to Football Index. It involves trading
footballers in the form of so-called “Digital Athlete Tokens”,
which are purchased with cryptocurrency. The tokens pay out a
yield based on the performance of footballers. It appears that
the product is in a test phase and is not currently live, nor
does it appear possible to deposit currency.
The Gambling Commission is taking proactive steps in relation to
KiX. It has written to the hon. Members for Blaydon, for Swansea
East () and for Brentford and
Isleworth () to outline its approach, and
it has written to my Department. The commission is currently
reviewing a number of elements of the KiX product. That includes
a review by its compliance and legal teams to consider whether,
if launched, it would meet the definition of gambling under the
Gambling Act 2005. It has also written to the individuals
responsible for KiX for further information on the product and
their intentions, and to highlight the consequences of launching
a product that meets the definition of gambling in Great Britain
without an appropriate licence.
Is the Minister saying that the Gambling Commission alone will
decide whether KiX is given a licence to bring its products to
the marketplace? I have a meeting with the Gambling Commission at
4.30 this afternoon and I would like to ask it that question,
too.
The hon. Gentleman interrupted me just before I was going to say
that the commission and the FCA are already engaging to establish
the details of the product and to agree the appropriate
steps.
There have been reports that two individuals previously involved
in running Football Index are involved in KiX. Adam Cole was the
co-founder of Football Index. He surrendered his personal
management licence in September 2021 while under review, and the
commission reached findings of fact regarding his involvement in
Football Index. Those would be considered if he were to make a
new application for a personal licence.
The commission also wrote to Abdullah Suleyman, the former head
of trading at Football Index, to confirm the nature of his
involvement in KiX. Following the letter, he surrendered his
personal management licence on Monday 22 April.
I recognise some of the steps that have been taken, but this
comes down to the fact that we do not want to see people being
taken in in the same way as they were with Football Index. It is
great that those individuals have given up their personal
management licences, but they have already shared their
information and used their experience to set up a new system.
What more can we do to make sure that people in the UK are clear
about the status of this and that it is properly regulated?
I was going to come on to that point. I reassure colleagues that
the commission will continue to take a very active role in the
monitoring of this product, and the FCA is also looking into the
KiX business and will take appropriate risk-based action if it
identifies that any of its activities fall into the FCA's remit.
However, I will raise this issue with both organisations again to
ensure that everything is being done, because, like everybody
else here, I do not want this to happen again. I hope I can
reassure the House that the commission has been monitoring the
market for several years for potential products that attempt to
replicate Football Index. It has intervened in several instances.
Although it would not be appropriate for me to name those
businesses, that demonstrates the commission's proactive work in
this area.
The hon. Member for Blaydon raised the issue of StocksFC. The
Gambling Commission is engaged with StocksFC and is monitoring
the company at this moment. I will write to the commission for
further information on that product and ensure that everything is
being done to monitor it.
I want to emphasise the point that my hon. Friend the Member for
Blaydon made, but I also want to pose a question: what
credibility does the Minister think the Gambling Commission has
now, given that so many people have lost so much money? As for
the commission posing the question of KiX, “Is it gambling?”, if
it is based on the Football Index proof of concept and the
expertise going into it is from Football Index, it is Football
Index mark 2 in a different form. Hon. Members have all outlined
how much this was not an investment and how much it was gambling.
In fact, questions of compensation are affected by that, in that
Ministers have said that taxpayers' money should not be used to
compensate people for gambling losses. So it seems to me that it
is a bit of a joke to ask, “Is it gambling?” Do we have to ask
that when it so obviously is?
I understand the hon. Lady's point, but it is important that
these things are looked at properly, under the remit of the
existing legislation. The Gambling Commission has done a lot of
work in this space to try to deal with the grey area that the
hon. Member for Inverclyde () mentioned. I want to come on
to that point, because the cryptoasset side of things brings in
another area of work.
I assure Members here that I will speak to my Treasury colleagues
to highlight this issue, and to ensure that we do not find
ourselves in a position like this again and address each of these
issues. I am confident that the relationship between the Gambling
Commission and the FCA is much improved and that the regular
meetings between the two organisations will ensure that there is
not a slip again. However, in order to get this right, I am more
than happy to speak to colleagues in other Departments to ensure
that no cracks still exist.
I want to press the Minister: can he assure me that he will go
away and look at the suggestion made by David Hammel of the
Football Index action group about a route to deliver compensation
without having to take it directly from the taxpayer?
I think it would be worth more than my life's worth to commit
Treasury colleagues to a policy, but I understand the hon. Lady's
point. I have seen that suggestion and I am sure that Treasury
colleagues will have views on it. I will raise that with them and
write to hon. Members following their response.
I thank everyone who has contributed to the debate. I hope that I
have been able to provide clarity about some of the lessons that
have been learned from the collapse of Football Index and the
action that has been taken by the Government, the Gambling
Commission and the FCA as a result. I understand the real
consequences that people have felt. This debate has been
invaluable for me to ensure that we consider all the issues that
need addressing and speak to colleagues across Government so that
we do not see this awful situation happen again.
3.43pm
I thank everyone who has taken part in this debate, including my
hon. Friends the Members for Ellesmere Port and Neston () and for Worsley and Eccles
South (), the hon. Member for
Strangford (), and my hon. Friend the Member for Sheffield,
Brightside and Hillsborough (). I thank the shadow Front
Benchers, the hon. Member for North Ayrshire and Arran () and my hon. Friend the
Member for Barnsley East (), and I thank the
Minister for his response.
I have a few points to make. As is usual these days, people have
been tweeting points at me all the time as well, so I was
watching those. The main thing I want to say is that we all want
to ensure that we learn the lessons and make it not possible for
people to be fooled—to be misled—in this way again. That is what
our attention must go to.
I am particularly concerned that we should not see people falling
through a gap in the regulatory frameworks, whether that involves
the FCA, the Gambling Commission or any other organisation. It is
really important that we not only reach memorandums of
understanding but ensure that that works and, if neither one
seems suitable, that we look at what on earth we can do to make
sure that the gap is plugged in the meantime. That is really
important for people.
I note that the Minister has undertaken to speak to the Treasury,
which is really helpful. Arguably, we could have been having a
debate in Treasury time saying what happened and what went wrong.
It is really important that the Government work together to
ensure that people are not misled and not required to look at the
tiny print at the bottom of a website to find out the status of a
scheme.
Finally, in news hot off the press, we talked about the FSCS, and
I understand that there are currently 10,000 users on that scheme
and that we are still looking at it. I do not expect the Minister
to be able to respond on that, but it would be helpful if we
looked at it outside this debate.
I thank everyone for participating. Let us make sure that what
happened with Football Index is not allowed to happen again.
Question put and agreed to.
Resolved,
That this House has considered the lessons learned from the
collapse of Football Index.
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